0:00:11 | so well just kind of going off from what she was saying earlier for the |
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0:00:16 | young |
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0:00:17 | for the social everything first of all there's the order for you doing here so |
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0:00:21 | you can use pound whatever have to you know go through a noticeable take some |
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0:00:25 | delay to do that |
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0:00:28 | in more importantly it's really important because |
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0:00:33 | i remember week if use your something we saw that there was an article like |
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0:00:37 | a couple weeks ago it's last are actually hit my inbox multiple times |
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0:00:42 | about this is going to be last quite like is gonna be the last one |
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0:00:46 | because |
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0:00:47 | it's like us it all i remember is that it was you know just a |
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0:00:53 | couple of negativity fall there absolutely wonderful comments section a and but the thing is |
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0:00:59 | i when you try to slight evidence that you know these kinds of events are |
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0:01:04 | relevant |
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0:01:05 | i when we invited me to do this i look at what i know what |
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0:01:08 | it was like nothing all there was the old he doesn't well so stay with |
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0:01:13 | that schedule but i try to you know to see what i should be doing |
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0:01:18 | i know |
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0:01:19 | there was like one and i don't even think of the whole thing so it's |
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0:01:23 | say what everyone |
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0:01:27 | our so just decide that you want things to remain relevant gotta put evidence that |
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0:01:34 | it lists |
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0:01:37 | or so |
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0:01:39 | want to |
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0:01:40 | be doing so |
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0:01:43 | i need to be you if you're wondering one first pronounce it in the middle |
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0:01:49 | is pronounced a so they did you buy though we can just go with you |
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0:01:53 | can just go with flip it it's a lack for to be more informal and |
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0:01:57 | first place |
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0:01:58 | i kind of they know thing on the what i can make it is bad |
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0:02:02 | and i'm real see the actual to correctly that never happens |
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0:02:06 | like well to be fair people would give me tighter do this thing they just |
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0:02:11 | match the keyboard and the one |
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0:02:14 | and it kind of funny but |
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0:02:16 | so |
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0:02:18 | well what i work a lot of work that i do as a game but |
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0:02:21 | i'm not really a designer at this point are not really doing are or what |
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0:02:25 | you know i'm all intact i specifically ports you linux and which is i take |
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0:02:31 | the code that works on windows or had maybe had some progress on any review |
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0:02:36 | for no i had and then |
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0:02:39 | i will ship it either you the three stores like to go on our double |
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0:02:43 | store on any particular with probable are |
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0:02:48 | okay good i would assume so it's still pretty big audience for them i think |
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0:02:53 | and in usually on ski just you know what exactly great and |
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0:03:03 | is there rosenfeld maybe i wrote something here but when trying |
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0:03:07 | we want fast like so the first thing reduces as far as an is getting |
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0:03:11 | record it |
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0:03:12 | and i know is |
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0:03:14 | when intention especially for some you're supposed to be official slides if you wanted only |
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0:03:20 | slides that address |
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0:03:22 | they're not really that important i said about to find out so if you want |
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0:03:26 | that it's just my alias a lot of to be |
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0:03:31 | so |
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0:03:34 | there is this deal with a |
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0:03:38 | i see this all the time various conventions for like specifically need for things where |
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0:03:43 | free software and open source kind have to contend each other so i wanted to |
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0:03:48 | put my foot down and now |
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0:03:49 | we do i sit most of you use linux |
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0:03:53 | or should i say can you minutes |
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0:03:57 | well the thing is |
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0:04:00 | there are perfectly good reasons for both and |
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0:04:03 | we think is |
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0:04:05 | i know you've all seen this comment on direct about sports |
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0:04:08 | so we like sports there's that one guy that says for instance they have an |
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0:04:13 | introduction this game it means it'll you work when it's just it's the same thing |
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0:04:19 | and but i think it in so normally other things i will try to use |
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0:04:24 | these all and you one expired you all you desktop linux on pretty sure you |
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0:04:28 | already so if i not entirely accurate in these matters |
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0:04:36 | just know that i know to and you know same things of the terms like |
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0:04:40 | free software open source of those type thing |
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0:04:45 | so this guy that some of you may not heard of and that is already |
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0:04:51 | in the first few minutes of his presentation you can speaking in such a coupons |
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0:04:56 | and from so i've image of them except for i was always doing these kinds |
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0:05:04 | of things i've most of my in career and if you minister using music and |
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0:05:08 | audio tech |
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0:05:09 | mostly production rather than you know are open L for instance |
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0:05:14 | and i a little bit of programming for all but the one time i did |
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0:05:20 | try to course |
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0:05:22 | is two thousand six and it was visual basic six |
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0:05:25 | you say i didn't really do any programming after that was a great first impression |
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0:05:31 | that |
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0:05:32 | but it's |
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0:05:34 | a few years in the college |
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0:05:37 | in i don't know how it is elsewhere pretty nice days in your college |
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0:05:41 | not really doing anything so if yours and mine |
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0:05:45 | how to do |
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0:05:46 | i'm reinstalling windows and slapped i know just installed or what's a good happens |
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0:05:51 | and it start |
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0:05:54 | and then about six months later i decided to go and actually you know instead |
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0:05:59 | of just waiting hope you get a triple a job outside to attempt to make |
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0:06:02 | games with a couple male friends in the model me i didn't really go anywhere |
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0:06:07 | "'cause" none of us really had experience entire engines and we didn't have money for |
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0:06:11 | like something like unity pro thing like that the only thing that we came out |
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0:06:16 | of that are the first like actual open source project they did it was like |
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0:06:20 | project you it was basically to except it was a on other platforms |
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0:06:26 | so and then there's another product that we did not of them really went through |
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0:06:31 | or |
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0:06:33 | they were bad enough to write an open source that wants to that so that's |
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0:06:37 | the first fourteen go think that you for your do or at least through problem |
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0:06:42 | here to do a important for about not even a year and a half a |
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0:06:47 | so not that much time on the other hand in that your to have |
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0:06:52 | poured all yees select mass some of them i think it works not for this |
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0:06:58 | their data mac version sensitive something go for linux but all means and then |
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0:07:04 | the three in the bottom of our same problem regarding that's actually are not yet |
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0:07:08 | but i'm i can say that i'm working on them and there's of course a |
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0:07:11 | lot more than i can talk about is that you things like that the recent |
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0:07:16 | one that's that were speakers all after it was a point against and there are |
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0:07:21 | like five dollars thing can get "'em" from next time you know how great |
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0:07:28 | no one is you probably noticed a problem because you gotta know how one you |
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0:07:32 | may you may not gotten it for that game but you probably do most of |
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0:07:36 | easy don't know |
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0:07:37 | that's else team in hubble backwards seem to work |
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0:07:42 | so i would i problems to earlier but most of the reason that i can |
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0:07:47 | do you as much as i did as i sure you know last like this |
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0:07:51 | "'cause" these guys whole |
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0:07:54 | i don't in sparta actually get some for |
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0:07:57 | in the first place that we kind of got me do use linux the first |
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0:08:00 | place |
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0:08:01 | so you can kind of thing can for that means different linux really accelerated people |
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0:08:05 | who didn't think they're gonna get into a bundle which is pretty typical but hey |
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0:08:09 | we can make it works versions |
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0:08:10 | find a guy was one do you |
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0:08:13 | you versions one of those cases |
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0:08:16 | but i know all that or |
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0:08:19 | but so you probably want you know actually free open source software in there somewhere |
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0:08:23 | so i don't a lot of that actually the last |
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0:08:27 | this year lows was where i did a lot of new projects |
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0:08:32 | you know we can see chart because |
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0:08:35 | there's a market of sports that was largely unattended which was microsoft X and a |
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0:08:41 | something you might have noticed that microsoft kind of killed acton a are nowhere sort |
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0:08:46 | of and |
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0:08:48 | the in people or you know panicking for sweeney exports why any games needs kind |
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0:08:53 | of anything you know what we do you X H do anything it but there |
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0:08:57 | is particle wanna game that reimplement so you can send it on multiple platforms is |
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0:09:03 | so thing |
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0:09:06 | and directly implementation it's phantastic i can their accident some pretty sits down things in |
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0:09:11 | getting X in a working every problem is the platform support with absolutely no |
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0:09:20 | to the point where like i'll put it this way you could not reliably set |
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0:09:26 | window size |
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0:09:28 | twice in a row |
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0:09:30 | you just like if you hit six forty by four eighty it might if it |
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0:09:34 | right again you know the same resolution if you could still we export it was |
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0:09:38 | all so |
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0:09:40 | after some various internet arguments and that sort of thing is you find a mailing |
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0:09:45 | list like i said screw it i'm just gonna without their platform code birds break |
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0:09:49 | out the old so that's gonna do it with a skill to which |
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0:09:53 | i actually see pretty much every single game i've worked on these just yell if |
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0:09:58 | you're not where to of the best a lot or |
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0:10:00 | if you're going to work in games and it's |
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0:10:03 | C plus we're sure you just because it would you about nine percent of the |
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0:10:09 | work you would have to do a lot of be writing to ask which |
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0:10:14 | thank goodness for way one this point hope we i know that's been a topic |
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0:10:18 | that's come up for school i mention we have some |
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0:10:23 | very popular something somewhat here that a so |
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0:10:29 | we're gonna so if you exercise in because you sure |
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0:10:31 | so i still future can be and then created opengl male whining so it's also |
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0:10:36 | one library has all see loads of the L dynamically centre about looking and then |
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0:10:42 | one of my games capsized |
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0:10:44 | and then of our somehow mayor on at video playback as microsoft gives you disability |
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0:10:49 | to play windows media video on the X box things you can render it is |
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0:10:53 | texture eighteen i mostly we don't have that so i decided to take you're play |
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0:10:58 | which lets you just really look your files and you can do whatever you want |
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0:11:01 | data not i miss your prep that not i hope that into |
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0:11:06 | on again with a steel to and you could get opengl accelerated video is great |
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0:11:12 | "'cause" i think that pretty video i resolutions is really nice little a and then |
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0:11:18 | all that in the not being the end product was something i called wanna gayness |
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0:11:23 | guilty which |
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0:11:26 | basically instead of having be right now we have be windows back and now back |
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0:11:31 | and we expect and what is eight back windows i think i think the windows |
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0:11:37 | so and we just go back and all this stuff but nobody cares about so |
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0:11:43 | i just made my name is still to which you know that is a one |
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0:11:46 | product for windows mac linux and anything that's for still to you compiled this and |
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0:11:50 | lose a single time input run of the symbols on a windows mac linux with |
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0:11:55 | our recompiling and it will work you know be fully comply |
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0:11:58 | so for instance when we do say i'm not the application support et cetera et |
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0:12:02 | cetera number next will be the activities that because |
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0:12:06 | that's what it should be will be or what |
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0:12:08 | and we're trying to pull that and now |
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0:12:12 | you will notice |
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0:12:14 | i don't be one |
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0:12:17 | actually can say i start as part of april and since i just five nine |
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0:12:20 | shipping about seven by the in your so it kind of works so the money |
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0:12:27 | in teams now kind of looking to getting them are estimated great about that and |
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0:12:31 | we also have a little bit of working market start which is |
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0:12:35 | thing is |
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0:12:36 | when you have a can see sharp you have to distribute it but people think |
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0:12:40 | you should install vinyl euro |
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0:12:42 | that doesn't always work because for so long as you know it's a lot like |
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0:12:47 | a lot of the hardcore linux guys have like arch extremely minimalised mean one is |
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0:12:52 | a lot |
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0:12:52 | and plus and it's like installing time every time to this packages of map |
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0:12:58 | but most games to use all right |
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0:13:00 | so at work right reaction for from |
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0:13:05 | which is one of you or original might imports actually not doing well |
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0:13:11 | he may just market start environment where the entirety of wanna be contained and i'll |
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0:13:20 | like maybe ten see shortly wells into binary files and it's like i think thirty |
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0:13:25 | makes you don't strip the binaries it's a significant improvement and it does it means |
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0:13:30 | you don't have to have people install tenancy they just want to run again i |
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0:13:35 | don't |
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0:13:36 | so |
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0:13:38 | i know that an export that and some other stuff |
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0:13:41 | you can export i so |
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0:13:45 | so this is my links this was actually the last like that i have because |
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0:13:51 | i am next project as long the because i don't really like using slides i'd |
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0:13:56 | rather just kind of |
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0:13:58 | talk instead of |
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0:14:00 | try having to kind of job between these two things and only you know say |
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0:14:05 | one thing double the time to trying to work with the stuff so you know |
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0:14:10 | those are our links |
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0:14:12 | and you can fall amount were and all these things |
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0:14:15 | know how to mention earlier their own might get accountable along some other stuff like |
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0:14:20 | that for other |
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0:14:21 | so most of what i want to talk about her dress the time is really |
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0:14:27 | just general things i come across it's really the operating point where it's you know |
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0:14:31 | a sweeping generalisation what you know perspective let's |
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0:14:33 | because |
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0:14:35 | half the reason i get my ports is because can that either don't know what |
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0:14:41 | to do with it or they try and they hated |
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0:14:45 | or |
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0:14:47 | well sometimes it's because they can just afford but that's very rare free in the |
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0:14:51 | independent scene |
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0:14:53 | so a lot of |
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0:14:55 | what i'm gonna be talking about now is |
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0:14:57 | really |
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0:14:59 | how i hell other developers get over those hurdles and things that |
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0:15:04 | are a real pain even for some like i for us that we kind of |
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0:15:08 | go we just have to you know do you can figure it make install and |
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0:15:13 | all that stuff that other does like |
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0:15:17 | channel just use a single installer |
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0:15:20 | pretty please on things like that and |
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0:15:24 | i have to kind of speech for all those developers use all in that slide |
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0:15:29 | like fifteen or something games |
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0:15:32 | because |
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0:15:34 | just one and i can kind of tell stories what they say but |
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0:15:38 | or i can kind i have to look at what they say i do you |
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0:15:43 | it's like once winter like some wanna be like i cannot this |
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0:15:47 | those you know start off for free systems where that's basically what tutors for |
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0:15:52 | and |
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0:15:53 | you know kind of soup and that's usually how like my contract we see someone |
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0:15:56 | get mathematics and i don't all do it for you an ace and if you're |
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0:15:59 | angry enough to we see |
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0:16:04 | so lot of it |
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0:16:05 | so for anything |
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0:16:08 | because |
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0:16:10 | so i don't wanna like start going on a horrible rambling mess but |
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0:16:15 | some trying to make it on what i'm trying to stretch and was structure but |
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0:16:22 | one of the |
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0:16:23 | i have the what's think about development from |
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0:16:28 | perspective of someone who uses like visual studio the whole time or discover what you |
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0:16:33 | hold time and they just kind of have everything |
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0:16:36 | trent it's all pink to that where the only thing they know about compiling stuff |
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0:16:41 | we don't like a come the idea other compilers like the thing that knows that |
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0:16:45 | you when you get a semicolon |
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0:16:47 | well it's not a program you run it's a little have says bills |
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0:16:52 | and so it's we have stuff like model and all that sort of does that |
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0:16:56 | but for a lot of that six each are quite in are still and you |
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0:17:00 | know and a proper native language that's it's you may |
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0:17:05 | one |
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0:17:06 | but |
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0:17:08 | in we don't really have |
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0:17:13 | we don't have a community that |
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0:17:15 | really |
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0:17:17 | simplifies that because we do you guys think is when we see someone say this |
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0:17:22 | on the socks and i don't know to do the first thing we do is |
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0:17:25 | neutral |
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0:17:26 | it's always like the you know did you |
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0:17:29 | do you have |
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0:17:32 | do what are this is less or whatever they whatever someone has a problem it's |
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0:17:37 | always what's try to fix the problem bit by bit instead of you know why |
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0:17:42 | was this problem and what can we did not have a problem for instance |
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0:17:48 | the issue that |
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0:17:50 | i've we terriers hands which is hexagon where |
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0:17:53 | i don't he you can problems "'cause" you didn't wanna |
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0:17:58 | you i think use developing on a map so complexity most sensible option |
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0:18:03 | and we can time to make still he just are just use the code what |
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0:18:08 | project problem is |
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0:18:10 | how cool blocks most let's go you just use at get for young |
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0:18:17 | you know |
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0:18:18 | i |
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0:18:19 | and |
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0:18:20 | or as some people will go at the usually the first thing someone says as |
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0:18:25 | you ask and then that is an you can just for were something ridiculous |
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0:18:30 | and |
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0:18:32 | you know or lack of ability to focus on what the problem is instead of |
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0:18:37 | like these underlying things like you know if your problem is that you using the |
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0:18:42 | but you know sometimes that makes sense and depending on how good murders when it |
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0:18:47 | comes out that they actually make sense but |
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0:18:51 | you wanna be able to say |
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0:18:57 | it's you what you wanna be able to say you know this is a well |
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0:19:01 | i you can either say i know how to fix it and i can do |
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0:19:03 | it for you and you know |
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0:19:06 | and sometimes if we have a lot of time to say no or even better |
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0:19:09 | because they don't wanna spend one it's a you know if you're especially for you |
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0:19:13 | guys i see most of you are golfers of desktop software and things like that |
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0:19:17 | so you should be able to say |
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0:19:19 | what's the problem just like if you see someone again but first problem complain about |
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0:19:23 | it you write it down some |
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0:19:25 | and you go okay |
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0:19:27 | if i'm to make a tool for this person that would make it better or |
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0:19:30 | if there's some component about single inferences that supposed to do that and they couldn't |
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0:19:36 | figure out that it with vigour |
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0:19:38 | a how can we |
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0:19:41 | make it is that it's it immediately here because with microsoft's like it's history a |
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0:19:48 | "'cause" that's what everybody thank you can you can you must use like mean G |
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0:19:52 | W or something ridiculous that nobody will use |
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0:19:55 | so |
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0:19:59 | and |
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0:20:00 | not kind of in exploring a little bit where |
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0:20:03 | one the products that i and i don't really think that all have been using |
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0:20:06 | one's motives which is |
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0:20:08 | well i think when you make game make saw for |
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0:20:13 | you have to have are but are able something always of stuff when notice that |
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0:20:20 | not only i know something seconds else comes the really nice interface to so you |
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0:20:26 | can tell when someone is talking you just you know you |
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0:20:30 | you say that executable you run and then you go three steps with and that's |
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0:20:35 | pretty for the user but one of the worst think numbers so that is that |
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0:20:39 | trying to if you're if you're not familiar with that trying to make "'em" are |
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0:20:42 | just a package is |
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0:20:44 | is insane and |
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0:20:47 | i haven't spoken with right about this yet but i kind of want to it's |
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0:20:51 | like imagine i like i put it in the king dollars prospering i say you |
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0:20:56 | know you go to set put this is examples then you run build and hopefully |
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0:20:59 | should work |
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0:21:01 | and of course nobody you know bingo brisket be if you're not really with linux |
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0:21:07 | it's we have trouble installing linux there are gonna be able to go to figure |
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0:21:11 | out you know how to make words that package when there's all these steps that |
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0:21:15 | are a lot that are completely unnecessary when you could just on so i kind |
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0:21:20 | of want to be able to |
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0:21:22 | for instance because where you're trying to make a package you get like again a |
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0:21:27 | description and then |
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0:21:29 | maybe install actually not just of racks things like that i mean you really important |
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0:21:34 | and they should be things that |
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0:21:36 | i wanna be like |
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0:21:38 | the apple that methodology words like you know even in any one user or you |
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0:21:43 | know it's |
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0:21:44 | you wanna be understand "'cause" a lot of it is |
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0:21:49 | "'cause" |
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0:21:51 | you that you had over if you a lot of U S folders knowing when |
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0:21:55 | you're struggling with something that's supposed to be fairly basic the last thing you want |
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0:21:58 | is for someone to be like all i are you having problems that's but what |
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0:22:02 | was adults of for you just you know |
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0:22:05 | you want you want to |
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0:22:07 | when making tools for that's all you're making a build environments or any sort of |
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0:22:12 | thing you want to do this |
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0:22:14 | to |
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0:22:15 | so it's easy not because you saw it's easy because that's what it's supposed to |
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0:22:21 | be a "'cause" I S that offers it's like |
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0:22:26 | okay but that's not this kind of supposed to be easy to use are supposed |
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0:22:30 | to know how to launch a haitian |
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0:22:32 | like it's a really basic that |
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0:22:36 | in |
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0:22:37 | you know sometimes we require like polarise i know three |
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0:22:42 | it's probably i don't know "'cause" i was using don't you for version of your |
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0:22:47 | time and then for fifteen came out and that's when gnome three happened so |
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0:22:51 | i don't know how long are do is that possible i'm assuming it was agony |
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0:22:56 | and it's probably still is trying to recover but you know that probably was a |
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0:23:03 | lot of us mean actually that's a question i should ask this is |
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0:23:07 | this is serious question because i know |
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0:23:10 | there probably actually ask people know when some actually very curious this like be honest |
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0:23:15 | i know there are new people in here but you just have to be brave |
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0:23:18 | permit how many action use gnome regularly hands |
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0:23:23 | guess i was wrong |
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0:23:26 | "'cause" like |
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0:23:28 | i'm glad i'm |
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0:23:29 | you was weird "'cause" like i remember what we were thinking about what i and |
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0:23:34 | you really nine ski like |
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0:23:36 | where you know use like awesome for us |
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0:23:41 | to be fair i mostly use cinnamon used a special is not task |
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0:23:45 | basic is known so but |
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0:23:49 | i'm hoping to go back some but you know |
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0:23:53 | i |
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0:23:54 | but |
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0:23:56 | it was we're "'cause" and the other thing was when i was |
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0:24:00 | getting to talk together i asked liked where are those people like what you will |
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0:24:04 | like i'm doing this thing is the gnome conference what you want me to talk |
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0:24:07 | about |
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0:24:08 | like this is right bonus points know okay nothing |
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0:24:12 | no skin your why because |
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0:24:16 | and i actually ask people like i think people i know like they're people that |
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0:24:20 | one your mentions list like they give a pen you opinion i'm like |
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0:24:23 | you really have no idea for a top like a topic like anything no like |
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0:24:28 | who cares about their first court your first even if you caters "'cause" it know |
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0:24:33 | reports that or comes up the last one in it's here |
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0:24:38 | and i'm very classy the numbers high that's because it's i know conference and that |
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0:24:42 | you wear but |
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0:24:45 | i |
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0:24:47 | it's it would be a for shane if something that was |
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0:24:50 | that if something that was a meeting standard it's just some you know what the |
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0:24:54 | way specially what we have things like unity are and all these new that's like |
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0:24:59 | cinnamon make all these branches know everywhere and |
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0:25:05 | but when the last thing that we should be doing is point especially when all |
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0:25:09 | this starts happening likes T and you know someone's getting bigger and bigger and bigger |
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0:25:14 | and where were fragmenting more than ever |
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0:25:17 | it's insane |
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0:25:19 | you know you would work so that's that sounds like class someone use it and |
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0:25:24 | then made differently assays |
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0:25:27 | no started or |
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0:25:29 | or some inane thing like that when |
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0:25:33 | you know |
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0:25:35 | you can point about little things like one place |
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0:25:39 | is |
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0:25:41 | or fragmentation the justification like is like you like is that like |
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0:25:45 | would does little whiner things just five making an entirely new that's |
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0:25:50 | likes like at least cinnamon it's original like for was just extensions for known three |
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0:25:58 | you know pretty cool in its kind of a shame they had to branch off |
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0:26:01 | and |
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0:26:02 | i think the replacement every for you can like the login screen they're replacing they |
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0:26:06 | like they're getting really serious |
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0:26:10 | but |
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0:26:14 | it's really it's really disheartening when |
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0:26:18 | a community that was doing like words not desktop industrials a and at a time |
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0:26:24 | when in of awkward |
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0:26:26 | but exist commercially viable to some degree see exactly try installing linux are working legs |
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0:26:32 | and the first thing we do in the same timeframe this fragment one desktop into |
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0:26:36 | a |
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0:26:37 | it's |
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0:26:43 | i |
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0:26:46 | so especially |
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0:26:48 | it would there's all these doctors like it's a it's a perfect storm just like |
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0:26:52 | complete and help us |
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0:26:56 | and |
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0:26:59 | and it's one of those things were even if one thing was improve to be |
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0:27:02 | better like maybe we could have seven desktop environments if we could just agree that |
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0:27:07 | maybe someone will like it even if you don't like really basic training but we |
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0:27:12 | could be doing here improve on just is click is developers |
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0:27:17 | you know |
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0:27:18 | we development event of sanctions you know source product like if |
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0:27:22 | someone doesn't like this thing and you can fix it than should probably except for |
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0:27:26 | them |
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0:27:28 | bonus points for you |
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0:27:30 | well |
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0:27:31 | a lot of linux users |
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0:27:34 | but don't have |
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0:27:36 | data do it they just don't care about that they don't wanna that whatever |
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0:27:40 | i mean |
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0:27:41 | so |
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0:27:43 | even if you're at all or intended we are like supposed to be like the |
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0:27:47 | higher or like just the thing is you more the higher so |
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0:27:51 | we really anyone it where developer user need to |
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0:27:55 | we just need to figure out |
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0:27:57 | how to |
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0:27:59 | have the slightest civilised conversation about the sort of things people who are just right |
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0:28:05 | like that right click the dressing you're trying to like this is the you we're |
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0:28:09 | desperately trying everything is fighting against you |
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0:28:12 | it's like it's like a |
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0:28:14 | i think that's and gamers |
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0:28:17 | sure hands again |
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0:28:21 | well there's always that |
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0:28:24 | your story we are trying to like be very are like really don't to like |
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0:28:28 | see some you one of them up like you're rooting for this thing you saw |
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0:28:32 | the trailer and you play or you see it and it's |
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0:28:36 | sauce |
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0:28:37 | and you're like and your brain is trying to go would know this is okay |
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0:28:42 | though that that's not for and all those are |
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0:28:46 | but that other thing is dumber than existing okay all these things we could be |
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0:28:52 | that are just not |
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0:28:53 | that |
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0:28:55 | or suppose like make us feel better but first one i don't if you better |
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0:28:59 | and then it everybody else are in your |
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0:29:02 | for gained a particular there at because |
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0:29:06 | blooming great linux gaming a really long time it's a it's terribly V the them |
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0:29:13 | happens at full force |
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0:29:16 | it's awful it's |
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0:29:18 | it's actually pretty terrible for porters as well because |
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0:29:23 | when you see a rat for someone's game one might seem you need to we |
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0:29:27 | wanna linux version if |
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0:29:29 | the community itself is not |
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0:29:35 | if they make it out we were even if you gotta making it and they |
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0:29:39 | make some money if that people the customers you're getting to come out come off |
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0:29:44 | as like it |
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0:29:46 | so maybe in like triple A where you know customers forwards put you on hold |
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0:29:50 | not you will take money anyway but independent as well words like me support or |
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0:29:56 | any other i did we're to okay you know |
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0:30:00 | if it |
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0:30:01 | if they don't wanna do it just celine "'cause" |
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0:30:03 | the community itself socks where |
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0:30:06 | do you look ninety nine percent what makes lex great every say is the community |
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0:30:10 | if the community looks like a sauce then they probably you want what surrounds |
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0:30:17 | so |
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0:30:19 | it's really important that |
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0:30:22 | if we're going to you know put up community ask this as like the leading |
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0:30:27 | that it's kind of important we make sure the communities actually you're gonna do that |
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0:30:32 | "'cause" we it it's |
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0:30:34 | experiments liars |
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0:30:37 | it's not cool |
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0:30:42 | criminals that i'm trying to not think into that too much going to i think |
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0:30:46 | you get it's like |
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0:30:48 | don't be initiate on the internet don't be like and if the you don't |
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0:30:54 | make don't make one problem that somebody has been to set |
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0:30:58 | he either you know the solution that is one solution it's great for us to |
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0:31:03 | me solutions and you could say there's a lot of maybe someone |
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0:31:08 | you had find help or you computer guy goes |
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0:31:11 | i can diffuse and how just you know mean i can i have this thing |
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0:31:15 | you're having trouble with i can help |
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0:31:18 | that's my job for instance |
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0:31:21 | so enough about |
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0:31:23 | okay getting all up in arms about community so like i know something trying talk |
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0:31:30 | about loaded up stuff to |
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0:31:33 | so |
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0:31:36 | so i small you just tell the i'm sick it's gonna see so |
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0:31:41 | anybody here explicitly working on real and |
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0:31:44 | okay or |
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0:31:47 | that's kind of slide |
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0:31:51 | actually |
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0:31:52 | so i mean don't have anybody doing anything with more |
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0:31:58 | okay |
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0:32:01 | i |
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0:32:03 | well |
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0:32:07 | i it's weird "'cause" i "'cause" like this is |
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0:32:10 | that seems to be that your words finally starting to |
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0:32:13 | it's a shame that it's it looks like we're with kind of thing that kind |
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0:32:16 | of set all it we should work on this new success attacks thing it just |
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0:32:21 | peacemaker socks i don't know it does |
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0:32:23 | i heard that song announcement in happened like how it was pretty much |
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0:32:28 | objectively wrong in a lot of ways that either i did your about it all |
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0:32:32 | i know is that shipping about two thirteen ten i to what they're doing |
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0:32:36 | well |
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0:32:39 | well i think it's all really not so i think i think i think you |
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0:32:43 | can like look at what they're doing but they're telling anybody |
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0:32:48 | never telling me i think that i think if you that |
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0:32:54 | i'm assuming we it's not contributed just roll for maybe like here if you guys |
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0:32:59 | fronting like crazy |
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0:33:02 | well like |
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0:33:03 | we should as it it's going to be in a major just grow by default |
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0:33:07 | like i want to the twenty thirteen ten when we shipping you are by default |
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0:33:13 | i |
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0:33:14 | maybe go back to one side only X performances and break that's the one thing |
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0:33:19 | i've heard but |
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0:33:20 | you know fact is we can so we went which most of us ready for |
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0:33:25 | actually i suppose all you because |
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0:33:30 | four point one okay |
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0:33:35 | okay that's really good because |
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0:33:37 | you know it in a race where the base is that weird the base feature |
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0:33:41 | is that hey it's not yes |
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0:33:44 | it pretty much means you we in so at that point the racist you can |
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0:33:47 | get a first and it looks like |
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0:33:51 | you're right i kinda sound like kind of the way what i am stories myself |
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0:33:56 | i don't care which one works as long as it got really sorry in your |
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0:34:02 | time |
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0:34:03 | so |
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0:34:06 | it's i think is if you |
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0:34:08 | if not it was gonna be way on one time you have to make it |
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0:34:12 | you have to you have to be than some it's you have to like it |
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0:34:15 | and some other way if you if will wants to be standing everyone's like everyone's |
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0:34:20 | madam are some i'm saying if you want to have an event or then |
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0:34:25 | and they have time just like nine percent i'm saying |
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0:34:28 | even if like if you if we don't works to some degree start making out |
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0:34:32 | if they're libraries that have like an X pac and make a will back for |
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0:34:36 | like and still too right now use it has will and that and works great |
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0:34:40 | all like if you might ports you just deal to like volume fifty of these |
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0:34:44 | are because replace my love that's the L one that we don't write it should |
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0:34:48 | work and if there are any libraries like that's the mel are things that have |
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0:34:53 | that's the thing you should take it back and forty two working with will because |
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0:34:58 | "'cause" very down there are really any apps for i and when someone puts therefore |
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0:35:04 | down to our faults manager is this |
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0:35:08 | that force them to have use that |
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0:35:12 | that if you are like well not really making immersed now when one thirteen ten |
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0:35:17 | comes out when they're phone stuff and i don't know that much about the model-space |
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0:35:23 | are there that you we're gonna finally you know go okay i guess i have |
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0:35:28 | now |
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0:35:31 | actually is it |
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0:35:40 | wow |
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0:35:46 | okay i |
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0:35:49 | maybe if |
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0:35:51 | but if you're reading i |
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0:35:54 | but |
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0:35:58 | top notch market which |
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0:36:03 | yes get |
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0:36:05 | so i mean the thing is it's reasonable to the highway and does not really |
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0:36:11 | of the old things |
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0:36:12 | they wanna use like their library that may only may have terrible export |
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0:36:17 | if you want to just make a linux version would and just have like a |
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0:36:20 | testing like again if you want to work and like a really driver still it |
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0:36:25 | works maybe there's some buttons have a what if there's a problem again it's just |
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0:36:30 | a still to really thing in texas and the more libraries that have that sort |
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0:36:35 | is for |
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0:36:36 | you could be we'll and i'm saying i'm saying like we were a lot but |
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0:36:40 | we can see and he does not software for anything the software that has a |
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0:36:44 | global stuff and |
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0:36:46 | there's a library to a lot of to use but it doesn't use your stuff |
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0:36:49 | you should work on that like it's a it's a break |
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0:36:53 | "'cause" one of the like |
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0:36:55 | you see like in like linux new lot like but it's amazing wailing that and |
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0:36:59 | it's like a |
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0:37:00 | to the rendering of like a triangle it's "'cause" it's like that's like the best |
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0:37:06 | thing to do it's like they have to rate of what sell trying to mean |
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0:37:09 | example when they're probably kind of examples you have |
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0:37:12 | and |
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0:37:14 | you if you just right if you just make a use make your |
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0:37:20 | whatever software this use the popular library you can say well it's fair this morning |
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0:37:24 | and we would like |
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0:37:26 | people pay attention to that like when |
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0:37:29 | when i was i didn't see any like we are using still on someone writing |
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0:37:34 | three right that was really cool people on this remote that this like |
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0:37:38 | i actually came running on this thing as opposed to a we have a cute |
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0:37:42 | little triangle right |
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0:37:47 | you know you someone else trainings your advantage so you know if there's get involve |
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0:37:52 | or |
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0:37:53 | that wants to use when it's in your like what happens that you want me |
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0:37:57 | to get myself working with yours and you want to do anything probably say sure |
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0:38:02 | they'd like the extra attention |
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0:38:06 | and |
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0:38:07 | for you know when all these competing back home like to go and right that's |
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0:38:12 | the other thing that's all that's all people that brave people are leaving G T |
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0:38:16 | K for keeps |
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0:38:18 | Q T i don't know how it's fine which one that's but you know if |
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0:38:22 | that's true |
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0:38:23 | then you gotta find something that needs |
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0:38:27 | like a an interface percent of the source and you'd interface make it easy katie |
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0:38:31 | thing for like show how would you do okay |
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0:38:36 | ins you know it's not it's not good enough to just say we have a |
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0:38:40 | lady i |
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0:38:42 | what we use it |
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0:38:46 | you don't wanna say are for anything that people like asking he speaks publicly it's |
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0:38:52 | like |
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0:38:53 | you don't want to be black you want to have a definitive answer |
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0:38:58 | like what games you just killed to a lot of things in the contention from |
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0:39:02 | on it once you know what we just don't you will you have three back |
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0:39:05 | and don't mind didn't work this and what in jesus your few i can say |
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0:39:09 | keep to use |
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0:39:11 | the entire this one sentence what you might games using the unreal engine use it |
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0:39:16 | now runs you'd unreal sports that you just be able to all reports and we |
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0:39:21 | have actual evidence |
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0:39:23 | and |
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0:39:24 | you know you have like |
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0:39:27 | that was enough for it and say okay we will actually include your version |
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0:39:32 | so |
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0:39:35 | the thing is developers |
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0:39:38 | we think that is going over time to come to us but i think if |
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0:39:41 | you really great if i still course you are before so passionate about our a |
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0:39:45 | we should be able to say we have this really cool thing and we like |
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0:39:49 | to like help you |
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0:39:52 | because |
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0:39:57 | i don't know |
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0:39:59 | i'm trying to try to come up with a good metaphor for but i mean |
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0:40:03 | you can E I setting lot of i there are some students in here that |
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0:40:07 | are to be looking for jobs at some point you can expect someone to just |
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0:40:10 | whole you can be like hey you wanna work for us something like we probably |
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0:40:16 | you get your number you have to you have to call them in |
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0:40:19 | be very communicative with |
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0:40:21 | the person who is a higher out like someone is trying to hire you and |
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0:40:28 | you know |
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0:40:29 | so my the point about this campaign is |
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0:40:33 | as user it as a developer |
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0:40:35 | you have to be able to accommodate developers instead of developers coming and having no |
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0:40:40 | idea what to do and going we'll fix it and fixing fix it and there's |
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0:40:44 | gonna have to go through every single step and george through it and they're gonna |
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0:40:48 | hate it |
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0:40:49 | so |
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0:40:51 | i think i have a few minutes lots of right to one another horrible attention |
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0:40:55 | i know this is it's you know but i really want a couple questions and |
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0:40:59 | we have |
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0:41:00 | i show a hand made and we any questions at all |
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0:41:05 | you know |
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0:41:07 | and there's one year |
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0:41:13 | we with a question |
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0:41:16 | anyone |
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0:41:19 | you get any other |
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0:41:26 | at a more |
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0:41:29 | i other than graphics stuff |
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0:41:33 | and the will and back and that kind of stuff what sorts of infrastructural stuff |
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0:41:37 | from the known games using or is deal fact is the game still really use |
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0:41:44 | anything specific you really don't have much more than at but |
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0:41:49 | but that's mostly games but here's yours example where might be really important is where |
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0:41:54 | tools like a lot of game editor like level editors like i know what if |
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0:41:58 | as editor at this point in a lot of as she case we like when |
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0:42:02 | forms were like to use just a little in this to form fits each are |
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0:42:06 | and |
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0:42:08 | you know there's really no way to i mean things you have to port anyway |
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0:42:12 | but |
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0:42:13 | like you know when it comes to your faces for editors where moderate want to |
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0:42:18 | you just a that's where stuff like you know like G T K last that's |
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0:42:23 | gonna come you know really so the that would be i would see games whatever |
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0:42:28 | you stuff like that but if you want to work with editors like if you're |
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0:42:31 | a martyr in which you have more modern tools on you probably because toolkits more |
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0:42:35 | people "'cause" i mean you detail those work on windows but for some reason people |
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0:42:40 | you gotta find so if you're one of those that's it works on those things |
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0:42:43 | she try to find out why |
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0:42:45 | "'cause" i don't know the answer |
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0:42:49 | so |
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0:42:51 | and you know |
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0:42:55 | okay so |
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0:43:06 | the a traditional problem when it comes to game development will seldom be just synchronisation |
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0:43:12 | and the most real deal and the is that's all problem these days |
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0:43:18 | can you actually do five and one O do i'll do from the game developer |
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0:43:22 | the what do you should be able to like was pretty much all my ports |
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0:43:26 | it's ask you all to for everything except on an open a lot of details |
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0:43:31 | fine and i've done it there are very few case right had like write directly |
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0:43:35 | also it was fantastic but i can audio these days make people think like |
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0:43:43 | you have to write directly to all the stuff when |
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0:43:46 | we have open al smart open solution as well i |
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0:43:50 | and i think if we have some problem select the fact is they do a |
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0:43:52 | pretty good job getting a lot stuff done so audio |
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0:43:56 | you know as much as we well putting up that trying graphic all these back |
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0:43:59 | ends like airlift of each other it's largely saul "'cause" you just told an use |
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0:44:03 | open you know and then it then it doesn't matter the banana works so |
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0:44:08 | is always you just say as long as we can agree to the say open |
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0:44:11 | air |
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0:44:12 | "'cause" there's really nothing else there is the you use that's right directly told stuff |
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0:44:16 | and now we don't do that anymore |
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0:44:18 | so your question |
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0:44:23 | and |
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0:44:25 | i mean if you if you have any questions they don't wanna say here on |
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0:44:29 | okay and i'm here or somewhere around here so you can just talking we are |
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0:44:33 | argue with me or saying mean things me i don't know so |
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0:44:40 | thank you all showed up in the what is a blast i'll be here for |
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0:44:44 | the court is just wanna talk "'cause" |
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0:44:48 | you know i mean were days and this is like you know so that was |
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0:44:51 | that's got it from a sob i'm going to hang out you guys are |
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0:44:56 | or see and you have presentations tell help show up to so next one |
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