Speech Transcript - Outreach Program for Women: Lessons in Collaboration

0:00:10	okay so let's get started with they talk so you all talk about the average
0:00:15	problem for women's that we have
0:00:17	you gonna in don't really since two thousand and six and i got involved was
0:00:21	it in two thousand and nine O we can introduce or no okay
0:00:28	this is for questions later okay and also you know we were able to apply
0:00:36	a lot of the lessons that we learned a certain entries problem for women are
0:00:40	to run in our outreach program and google summer of code in general
0:00:45	so first like non joint google summer of code in two thousand and five which
0:00:52	was the first years it was doing a google summer put in a i believe
0:00:56	most people here know really well global summer codas but for those who don't it's
0:01:01	a problem where a google bayes students five thousand dollars for three months of some
0:01:10	of work a on a different free software projects and over two hundred and fifty
0:01:15	different free such organisations participating and don't has been fortunate to be participating every year
0:01:22	since two thousand and five so you know there were no women applicants and then
0:01:27	in a two thousand six hunter will can principle know what is that like among
0:01:32	hundred eighty applications that norm received for global summer of code you know twenty people
0:01:38	was selected that your but one hundred an eighties there were no women applicants so
0:01:43	they decided is that they could do something about it and
0:01:47	they
0:01:49	started the first of the know women some our outreach program and a it was
0:01:54	like really trailblazer because that's when they had to field a lot of the scepticism
0:01:58	in a community where people said you know well if women are not shown opposite
0:02:02	they might just not be interested and that's how it is and they had the
0:02:08	received about a hundred applications and that really prove that women are in fact interested
0:02:13	in a six women participated was known for a two months intercept that was like
0:02:19	put together
0:02:20	just the same here right after the google summer of code that line
0:02:27	and
0:02:29	i think the hope was that just kind of
0:02:33	saying that once that we are communities that is friendly to women would encourage women
0:02:39	to apply for google summer of code in future years but as you can see
0:02:44	you know the numbers improved slightly but we were like getting like this kind of
0:02:48	binary code one zero one zero like you know that's a you know maybe there
0:02:52	was one woman in a particular year
0:02:57	and also so that was like around the time when i started being involved was
0:03:02	can all it and what it can just of the nine which was my a
0:03:07	and second what can grant can area so for five percent women am i think
0:03:12	is in that actually meant each women and the funny thing is that like when
0:03:16	i like started looking into this i started by saying well zora for women and
0:03:21	that picture but later and the raffle women in the picture but later more women
0:03:26	like karen sensor or some on her hers wire were like our that sylvia was
0:03:33	there so more women are keen to me and like i kind of learned that
0:03:39	like you know they words there to a so this is number you know but
0:03:43	maybe is a one more like i also kind of like hundred sixty people in
0:03:46	the don't picture i don't know exactly how many people to work but it was
0:03:50	about five percent that were eight women at the conference
0:03:53	and
0:03:56	the gonna condition like really noticed that and they approached me ask me to organised
0:04:03	the outreach problem for women to revive the previous efforts that we had so i
0:04:10	was like really new to this type of
0:04:13	activity because i was a software engineer and you know i just didn't want to
0:04:18	really
0:04:20	focus my attention on that before i was asked and then like when i start
0:04:25	thinking about it and when i started going to other are free software
0:04:30	what women participation tracks like i want to a women participation and all that post
0:04:36	that present high nowhere on and you know i was just basically little learning from
0:04:43	that
0:04:44	that you know we should be doing something about it and
0:04:49	and basically a the first thing i started doing it encouraged women to apply for
0:04:56	google some of but so we created an average pro for women and but i
0:05:00	also said that okay like we should make it an ongoing initiative
0:05:06	but we started by encouraging women to bifocals summer of code and in two thousand
0:05:10	ten a that you're like we already had like mentors for that which problem for
0:05:14	women and we kind of did a round of introductions and they don't women list
0:05:20	and
0:05:22	you know also in the end like that were six applicants this year for google
0:05:26	summer of code and all only one participated two so again like not a very
0:05:31	high turnout so this is like when we realised we need to go back to
0:05:36	do in the dedicated internships
0:05:38	and this is how you noses poster came about and we went back to doing
0:05:45	dedicated internships
0:05:50	and we are aware doing them twice a year
0:05:55	and we had eight to twelve participants each round and also we decided to run
0:06:01	some around in parallel with google a summer of code as that a lot of
0:06:06	to you notice
0:06:08	in white women to apply for both programs and women code reason more students they
0:06:14	where able to participate in google summer of code and that would really
0:06:20	kicked up the number of women that we have in will summer of code
0:06:27	and also you know we have more women in a community now and last it
0:06:32	was seventeen percent women at the project and this year it's
0:06:36	eighteen percent and this year will also like we soon as a milestone which is
0:06:41	with triple the number of speakers a whole women at what it as a percentage
0:06:46	so we have twenty one percent women speakers of what to basically more women are
0:06:52	you know stepping up in our community and that's wonderful and
0:06:56	you know the program seem to work and i'm gonna talk more about
0:07:00	why was tickets working
0:07:05	so well we're doing this in brno it really does like had of other
0:07:11	free software project still like last year can really did this study of newcomers who've
0:07:16	joints twelve free several projects in the last three years
0:07:21	and for the norm fifty percent of respondents were women and for other project six
0:07:26	percent of respondents where women and like this is your to fifteen basics highest concentration
0:07:32	was stuff like an but still and we can be idea which was fifteen percent
0:07:38	that actually meant like to women replied from bikini D and three women replied from
0:07:42	a still and in fact like we had don't have more women responded and all
0:07:48	of the project combined
0:07:51	so people in the wider free software community of course nobody stand that disparity in
0:07:58	women
0:08:00	we're representation in the project and there is a lot of interest on the on
0:08:05	behalf of like all those projects to do something about it and since we already
0:08:11	had i'd say when in formula up we started inviting as organisations to join us
0:08:19	and last summer free separate conservancy was a twisted project joined us you know kind
0:08:26	of like stealing from want to which you know is people in computer science that
0:08:31	was like the hardest pro problem and then you know in the winter and then
0:08:36	this number of skilled from to too many and
0:08:41	and that's you can see the a good all martial artist girl is gonna poster
0:08:47	and now we have more of
0:08:51	free software robots
0:08:53	and the world
0:08:55	as a logo
0:09:00	so this is this is the information about how much the program has grown a
0:09:05	right now we have us thirty seven in terms participating was sixteen organisations and that
0:09:11	includes we comedian was the lot and you know not include linux kernel
0:09:16	open a morass lots of great projects
0:09:20	and you know at the same time like i mean the climate is changing the
0:09:25	culture's changing and in google summer of code goes we'll team and
0:09:33	i and the either initiative after that it be need to in course more women
0:09:39	to participate in free software are also be reflected in the fact that
0:09:44	just years there's a nine point five percent of google somehow of code participants the
0:09:50	women and like that number has been climbing from really low numbers in
0:09:56	earlier years and like another example that i have is that a bikini dear has
0:10:02	only ever had like one woman participative will summer of code before and because the
0:10:07	work which is to be in a in the access problem for women
0:10:11	this year as a summer they have seven out of about twenty of their google
0:10:17	summer of course participants this year are women so the can experience it can own
0:10:22	had with also increase in the number of women for just being able last summer
0:10:27	of code is like was basically replicated by a bikini D a
0:10:34	and accurately sponsors of the surround a longer than google are a really big general
0:10:42	sponsors and then mostly other musicians our sponsor in internships where people are contributing each
0:10:49	choose their initiation specifically
0:10:52	but yes of really just you know we're learning where working together with a lot
0:10:58	of great projects to advance women's participation in free software
0:11:03	and right had
0:11:05	if a having mean workmen's this which is great and ropes and great our we
0:11:12	go park with helped us dropped the contracts for everybody which is something we decided
0:11:17	to introduce this year as the program group
0:11:23	and so why it works first like when
0:11:29	when
0:11:31	people are applying i mean first things that we do is we address women directly
0:11:35	because this just seems to grab their attention to let them know that a like
0:11:41	that would thing might single unlike what they've observed around them this is something that
0:11:48	is really open to them and something that is welcome enforce them and we can
0:11:54	that woman was mentors which ensures that like to have a one on one attention
0:11:59	do an application process and we really
0:12:03	emphasise the application process what we want to see a house killed somebody is the
0:12:10	and also you know how much they're willing to learn
0:12:14	so we require a contribution during the application process for the application to be considered
0:12:20	because
0:12:23	i think is just like also really important to us that the people we bring
0:12:29	and
0:12:30	are qualified and you know both them and a and the community have a good
0:12:37	experience and also we ask people to spread the word far and wide interest from
0:12:43	marketing perspective making a sample tweet an example e-mail available for people you know helps
0:12:51	some spread the word for you
0:12:56	and then
0:12:57	during their internship
0:12:59	the reason
0:13:02	they need to be
0:13:04	they three months internships is because you know women often feel
0:13:11	quite behind when us a feast was technology where
0:13:16	kind of the after that you know if you guys we're born with the laptop
0:13:19	attached to them and women where so providing that focused opportunity to work and something
0:13:29	for three months to really developed experience
0:13:32	to basically catch up is essential for to jumpstart
0:13:37	a women's participation free software
0:13:41	and also we depart somewhat from like what's been typical for google summer school would
0:13:47	like google summer of code messages this originally was like prove your rock star propose
0:13:53	the project
0:13:55	in you know put like put you idea into reality and you know we actually
0:14:00	learned that doesn't quite work for global summer of code either so we kind of
0:14:04	changed approach to it as well so we're really try to emphasise a project that
0:14:10	unmanageable that allow participants like interns to land a tasks throughout the internship period kinda
0:14:18	happens beautification of lending something
0:14:22	and also definitely they have to be like agreed upon a basic community and
0:14:27	also relevant so you kinda have to accept at the project plan might change throughout
0:14:34	a so basically we define the actual for women insertions as more of a fellowship
0:14:41	which is more free flowing and
0:14:43	we apply that to will some of go to the extent that that's possible was
0:14:49	in the google summer of code framework
0:14:51	and another very important things that we're doing was interested but that we're requiring participants
0:14:57	to block every are two weeks
0:15:01	and first that increases the visibility of their work and second it let the community
0:15:06	know that women are participating make women a part of the community and i think
0:15:11	that
0:15:12	in brno we had a
0:15:15	of various moves
0:15:17	transition to have an a discourse
0:15:21	in the project that just gradually changed to be more a polite and to be
0:15:28	aware of the fact that women are part of the conversation like we're really never
0:15:32	had to like
0:15:33	force that issue and say like let's just like
0:15:37	drop all the corny jokes how but people became more sensitive overtime because women's voices
0:15:44	are visible in the community and you know you can contrast that for example with
0:15:49	like linux kernel which right now is have an like rampant discussions
0:15:54	about what is the appropriate language to be used on mailing
0:16:00	and i think that we're doing is the team
0:16:03	internships are
0:16:05	open to
0:16:07	balls non coders and
0:16:09	i believe that was in the previous slide
0:16:11	yes this is the programs open to both non students and not coders which basically
0:16:18	extensive field you know we want we definitely need to have outreach programs for designers
0:16:25	and translators
0:16:28	in general but at least right now we are able to do that was in
0:16:31	the out reach program for women
0:16:34	and nancy this is also very important because that basically allows women to transition into
0:16:39	work in a on free software
0:16:42	after this students you know and free suffer is not like notably has a little
0:16:47	barrier to entry you don't need to have a diploma to work on free software
0:16:52	so you know people from different walks of life can joint free suffering to join
0:16:59	with the help of the outreach program for women
0:17:06	and the couple of the points and this slide is that you know well
0:17:10	some like a woman might still be like the only woman in the project that
0:17:15	she's working on we have this community of interns where they can talk to each
0:17:20	other and kinda network and i have the support network of women who participate in
0:17:27	and of both men and women who are mentors in the program and you know
0:17:31	face to face communication like we're having here quite because very important and
0:17:38	you know that's what gets people addicted so we try to bring everybody to the
0:17:43	events and encourage other organisations to do the things in fact this front would be
0:17:51	introduced to five how hundred dollar allowance for travel affords the out from for women
0:17:59	insurance and that's actually some sort google some of code provides as well
0:18:04	for travelling to relevant events
0:18:08	and then
0:18:09	after the
0:18:13	program and you know we of course encourage
0:18:16	participants to stay involved to continue working with their mentors you nosy interaction soul but
0:18:22	cement are shipping teen years and i have also encouraging turns to present at conferences
0:18:27	and you know many step up to have very active roles in our community
0:18:34	and also like it's important for us as organisers to understand it's a good support
0:18:39	for both other from for women and google some of course to understand that
0:18:44	you know
0:18:46	people have their own life and like that
0:18:48	path like you know it's great to have like a very fast online so somebody
0:18:53	moved on two different community or to just do something entirely different
0:18:59	haven't been able to share of values was them and the values of free suffering
0:19:05	and knowing that more people understand it and can carries that message is also very
0:19:10	important
0:19:11	so that in itself is tremendous value and privilege of
0:19:17	have an you know being able to have those internships and providing those internship opportunities
0:19:27	and you know you might have seen some of those flights in my talk at
0:19:32	the A G M yesterday but here are some examples of how the alumnis of
0:19:38	the program are starting initiatives that in there
0:19:42	local
0:19:45	areas and also going off to conferences talking about the program
0:19:55	so now like to switch to like what did we learn and like how did
0:20:00	we applied to make known better for everybody
0:20:04	so one of my favourite
0:20:08	things that came out of this is that i don't know has a mentors list
0:20:12	that you know basically mentors for everybody in like i think the informal mentor ship
0:20:18	is just so important just like haven't this human touch like i'm just like remember
0:20:23	in like five years like i don't for this word a five yourself look at
0:20:26	this like a slide of like a hand with this smiley face and it's not
0:20:31	human touch and i think this is just so important at this is this is
0:20:36	you know people who can give you a hand right and going on now like
0:20:40	it started was like nine mentors for the actors problem for women people interested in
0:20:46	outreach problem for women and then we've just moved just list over just a than
0:20:50	a lot of initiative and right now has forty six mentors and i'd really cars
0:20:54	people to add themselves to it
0:20:59	and
0:21:00	along with that like of course we've been improving resources for everybody us in particular
0:21:05	with created and you commerce tutorial a step by step tutorial to take somebody through
0:21:11	the process of downloading in brno module submitting a bug for com submitted fix for
0:21:16	it cools in a bog so just really something that helps people get started and
0:21:22	about forty people have gone through system the last and months and then actually alters
0:21:29	from for women participants have worked on developer tutorials in multiple languages like ball and
0:21:35	javascript and see and pies and so we know have improve developer tutorials and along
0:21:43	was those we have you know other
0:21:46	initiatives that i'm not directly related to search for women but that are part of
0:21:51	our you know what we do to make
0:21:55	you know newcomers haven't immediately finding a their way starting with can also it's a
0:22:02	you know the can on lot harder and the every detail matters initiative by designers
0:22:06	where they identify a
0:22:09	bugs and features that they definitely want to see fixed and implemented in brno and
0:22:15	those a great beginner to intermediate task
0:22:22	and you know ever since that we did for the ad for women which is
0:22:27	kind applied to google summer of code as well i said before we did not
0:22:31	require tool summer of code applicants to engage with the project that they were applying
0:22:37	to work on do an application appeared we just said you know give us the
0:22:41	link to some bulk you sold in free software and i
0:22:47	this engagement and like during the application process and
0:22:53	seen simple bugs some simple patches land kinda makes a detective and very encouraging and
0:23:00	to the students and prepare is them to start to be ready to dive in
0:23:06	into their project so you know is i mentioned at the aegean we had like
0:23:11	an exceptionally high rate of engagements was i will summer of good students
0:23:19	this year and
0:23:22	we also require everybody to block see it used to be a requirement that people
0:23:27	have to send their updates to me a little list and then we realise that
0:23:31	the meal on this is mostly just being read by other insurance and we realise
0:23:35	that you know it's really good to get people to just blog on the planet
0:23:39	and you know get the feedback from the community and you know just kind of
0:23:45	also feel more integrated with the community and again we have the size more manageable
0:23:51	agreed-upon tasks instead of like grant idea projects
0:23:58	and you know we do things together like for a you know which free bows
0:24:03	programs as our outreach program both google summer of code and outreach group for women
0:24:09	so for example
0:24:12	you know what do i i'd yearbook a post last year and this year with
0:24:16	old interns
0:24:20	your screen there
0:24:23	never believe very special and to see and then do have participated in both programs
0:24:31	and that
0:24:34	and you want to more for quite a few actually
0:24:39	and tiffany
0:24:43	and those the things you can do it to help like you know first just
0:24:46	be mentor you know put yourself out there so that you know somebody can get
0:24:52	your help and become as awesome as you are
0:24:57	and also you know think about the beginners how like how would the beginner approach
0:25:02	your project like have good resources for them have step by step tutorials you know
0:25:08	be ready to point to
0:25:12	easy tasks i think you know i said like we have too much of
0:25:18	you know kind of scratch around each at this is where we just in well
0:25:23	like your newcomer like you know
0:25:26	what do you want to work on like to have a grand vision and really
0:25:31	i just and that we need to do a better job in a directing newcomers
0:25:36	to
0:25:37	small tasks that are definitely something that we want those that we maximise how good
0:25:44	their experience of landing that first batch is how likely it is that we will
0:25:49	help them and that actual and because that's something that we want to see landed
0:25:54	so maximise in the good experience over you know prove your rock star it's i
0:26:02	think it's a good approach
0:26:05	and then a for both the opportunities that we ask people to promote when you
0:26:10	know we have the internships and for any opportunities that you know but in your
0:26:14	city you know we are now collecting you know
0:26:19	information about women groups in different cities and different lot calls and those two links
0:26:26	so
0:26:29	you know and both of them if you go to the outer sprung for women
0:26:31	spread the word you can find they are the links there as well and i
0:26:35	think it's just
0:26:37	you know and the second link is basically like women in computer science groups in
0:26:42	universities so if there is an advantage and you're like well women are just not
0:26:47	sure not they're not interested i know that's not the keys just invite them invite
0:26:51	them like take you know take make the extra effort to
0:26:56	and information about events to of women in technology list in the area it really
0:27:01	makes a difference
0:27:03	and also and i think that
0:27:06	we followed and like you know we're really fun this was quite it because like
0:27:10	you know last year we had as many women at the conference
0:27:14	but without us like actually encouraging women to
0:27:20	to as well to supply talks and do talks
0:27:25	i think fewer would have been doing that this year and that's something that a
0:27:29	conference organisers across free software have found that you know when you typically approach an
0:27:36	out and out some like do you have an idea for a talk at the
0:27:40	conference they would like brainstorm five ideas was you and when you approach you woman
0:27:45	she would say well i'm not and that i'm not the expert and like you
0:27:50	know and the ideas that like you don't have to be the expert you can
0:27:53	be an expert you know something talk about it and so making an extra effort
0:28:00	to encourage women to say yes you have things to talk about please go and
0:28:05	talk about it at the conference really
0:28:09	make sense in
0:28:11	promoting the visibility of women in the project
0:28:16	and
0:28:17	you know more
0:28:20	specifically also you know if you're the companies it's not yet sponsor not rich problem
0:28:26	for women a please consider getting your company to sponsor an internship
0:28:32	and you know if you're donating money to the confrontation you couldn't possibly here mark
0:28:37	damped was the a control for women were basically go and each and sponsors outreach
0:28:42	problem for women internships itself so you know and intonation to signal condition would help
0:28:49	with that
0:28:51	and
0:28:53	i also would like to talk about a couple
0:28:56	other initiatives that are making the free suffers base more welcoming to women because you
0:29:04	know we we're really need to climate change and i think what we're doing and
0:29:08	don't is like at a really big part of the climate change but
0:29:13	you know nobody can do it alone and it's great to have different decision approach
0:29:19	and it from different angles and i'd say that all's serene like post can open
0:29:23	teach an open hatch and need initiative are confronted in a question of a low
0:29:29	participation of women in free software from three different angles and so here just kind
0:29:35	of funny that like you know this looks like a chicken and then tag and
0:29:39	we do have the bit over chicken an ad problem we are you know few
0:29:45	women are participating in free software because few women are participating in free software and
0:29:51	they don't think that the are culture is friendly to women's participation so those two
0:29:57	organisations there are trying to solve this problem from two different angles open hatch is
0:30:03	running workshops a for students
0:30:07	at universities and they probably around like over a dozen workshops right now a believe
0:30:14	all somewhere in united states but they're they have exceptional materials online for their workshops
0:30:20	and write ups from sam and they usually try to organise those workshops rules the
0:30:25	women in computer science other groups at the university like they open to all students
0:30:29	but they would make this extra effort to invite women and basically those are introduction
0:30:35	to free software like what is free software what is tools used for free software
0:30:42	and help in a participants fix simple box across different projects
0:30:48	and
0:30:51	eight initiative is
0:30:53	approaches this from a different angle where they had taken make a really big picture
0:30:57	view of what do we need to do to make a culture friendlier to women
0:31:02	so they have a created an anti harassment policy of version of which we are
0:31:07	has been adopted by over a hundred free supper conferences including quite that they're creating
0:31:13	the running at camp of and
0:31:17	once or twice a year is that a bring women interested in open technology and
0:31:23	culture together and the last event had about two hundred
0:31:27	participants and also had an L extract from an a to
0:31:33	to help kinda
0:31:35	distill how many can be helpful and in
0:31:40	promoting discos and you know it like i've been to i to cams and it's
0:31:45	a fantastic of and because you see a lot of like minded people you
0:31:52	see a lot of people like doing things to
0:31:54	to change you know to change the ratio and also just doing all some stuff
0:32:01	in you know in their projects
0:32:05	so more things that you can do a to help with those organisations which would
0:32:12	also promote our participation of women in free software is the
0:32:16	create an open hatch profile so like they also have an online component where i
0:32:22	think norm should be better represented in the fact that we are friendly project and
0:32:27	as they have
0:32:29	you know profiles for mentors on their side that i encourage people to create and
0:32:35	also they have contests material so you can austin open hedge workshop and they have
0:32:40	like also like those like
0:32:42	online missions fully cluring different batch and get
0:32:48	and also you like installation instructions that you can use doing that workshop
0:32:55	you know if you are
0:32:59	run in organising a conference you should seriously consider have an anti harassment policy
0:33:04	and
0:33:06	also at camp is a fantastic event in a the usually have a portion of
0:33:11	it that's you know for women only and of course that for men and women
0:33:17	so i'd encourage tendon it because
0:33:20	you know that gives you a big picture of what's happening in free software across
0:33:25	all of free software up to make it more diapers
0:33:30	and also it can't i am so i recently be team and advisor for the
0:33:36	E D initiative so i definitely feel very passionate about
0:33:41	they of course because i think we need this big picture change when users
0:33:46	all too much at the current for women in free software
0:33:52	that
0:33:53	you know is doing something that's like very complimentary to what the confrontation is doing
0:33:59	and they have just or their find raised in drive for this year and it's
0:34:06	basically an organisation that's run by two people and one of them was a choral
0:34:12	and filesystems hacker attract had just you know had to quit her job and start
0:34:17	this nonprofit and they're not looking to hire third person and a i think it's
0:34:23	just it's an essential organisation for a promoting to diversity in free software so i
0:34:30	would really encourage people to donate to it and also open hatches a fantastic because
0:34:36	the kind of few works that they're doing is much needed so you know as
0:34:44	it run an open hatch workshop may university in your city would donate to open
0:34:49	hexes that they can com to university or invite them to come to a your
0:34:55	university
0:34:59	and
0:35:01	so i've tentatively scheduled the women attack a ball a two four P M on
0:35:07	wednesday so we can
0:35:09	have more of a discussions there and you know we you purposefully leaving this like
0:35:14	very open ended you know we can just talk about anything to talk about doctors
0:35:19	problem for women but we also can talk just about you know challenges that like
0:35:24	why we're doing any sin in particular about women's participation in free software in technology
0:35:32	like
0:35:33	like what is a situation like why
0:35:36	like why we
0:35:38	doing this write a so yes is there is a boston thank you and other
0:35:43	questions
0:36:00	so scores since D those don't so much from you know one just those
0:36:09	to so many other or incisions this year you are
0:36:15	experience like any growing pains
0:36:19	if you see what i mean
0:36:20	yes i most about growing pains have been technical which you like really well from
0:36:27	are familiar with like we need an application system and you know i know that
0:36:33	to be on an entry it's and we have some great to get involved with
0:36:37	help that's build
0:36:39	an application system because i couldn't handle and this over a mailing list and it
0:36:43	kind of worked when we have like thirty five applicants will be known but this
0:36:47	year we had like a hundred over a hundred applicants a across a the sixteen
0:36:53	organisations and it became i completely unmanageable through mailing list so i said let's like
0:36:59	our biggest growing pain that we need an application system but it's i think really
0:37:07	like one
0:37:08	abbreviations join us like they have you know basically like condor parts of me like
0:37:14	they are who are like really excited to a
0:37:19	to participate in to run it so it does have like this kind of distributed
0:37:24	a few of google summer of code even though we do try to you know
0:37:28	provide more ideas about how to make this work us as a user consistent requirements
0:37:35	across all projects and i haven't really mentioned it but
0:37:39	i had it on
0:37:41	one of the slides and that's like
0:37:44	you have to planet know it's my favourite login aggregate or i don't know i
0:37:49	sure really big favourite between planet norman a women in free software planted i highly
0:37:56	recommend everyone to like added to the roster of what street it's extremely it's inspirational
0:38:04	so in addition to be included on the planets a of stay organisation organisations we
0:38:11	possibly interns to be included on this planet
0:38:19	any more questions
0:38:24	you may not a how do you think we can improve and the you know
0:38:28	the sticking around radio of participants i mean specially in google somewhere code a lot
0:38:34	of participants did not stick around after two program and this is we could apply
0:38:39	for improvement is more successful than some of couldn't to dot extension as far as
0:38:43	i know but still there a certain number of participants that did not stick around
0:38:49	but leaving we could do was a community members mentors all of us
0:38:56	right
0:38:58	so i think like what been better
0:39:01	about it for a whole summer of code as well so i definitely things that
0:39:06	have an very high standards during the selection process it's very important have this like
0:39:12	engagement period where
0:39:15	the applicants already knows the mentor and have already like shown what what's a capable
0:39:21	of during the application process is essential for us to be selecting the right candidates
0:39:27	and then i you know i think
0:39:32	mentioned you know i feel like the stickiness factor is good
0:39:37	but i feel like it's not like
0:39:40	and ultimate measure of success in some ways because
0:39:43	if you like you know it's normal that you know people might develop also interested
0:39:48	people might want to pursue other interests you know so i think it's
0:39:53	just
0:39:55	haven't like people have a good experience and like learn what it is like what
0:40:01	free staffers about what can almost about itself is extremely valuable but decided like you
0:40:08	know we should just you know engage was people you know engage before they it
0:40:13	a do an application process engage during the internship you know bring people to a
0:40:17	lot of you know
0:40:18	but you know like i feel like you know people are here because of course
0:40:23	you know like there are a lot of winters in this room and of course
0:40:25	we would like you to stick we you know we're happy to have you here
0:40:30	but i also don't want anybody feels oppressed are just
0:40:35	O B I minutes left any other questions
0:40:50	have you run into any challenges term so maybe tour jury interactions that you know
0:41:00	that you have to overcome
0:41:08	it varies and
0:41:13	i have the work individual pieces
0:41:18	which i would say like would usually be pretty individual cases where
0:41:24	i mean
0:41:26	you know we you know we had some you know that there is the spectrum
0:41:30	writing somebody might be like very much hands off as a mentor or somebody might
0:41:35	be you know kinda you know we had like a situation where one person the
0:41:40	concerted
0:41:41	ourself the mentor and like not and gone home but just
0:41:45	the example like and
0:41:47	started like
0:41:49	really given so much guidance is that it was overwhelming and they it was like
0:41:57	not see can experience we want people to have like you know we wanted to
0:42:00	be a fellowship where you know you were accomplishments speak for themselves a and we
0:42:06	don't what we don't want it to be a stressful situation and so you know
0:42:11	if somebody decided that they need to micro manage an intern like you know that
0:42:15	we don't want that a you know we will see don't want somebody to like
0:42:19	really like
0:42:20	not be present into i was like the inter reaches out doesn't like it's a
0:42:25	spectrum and you know there is definitely human factor in this then you know sometimes
0:42:31	interns like you know have things of their own have an and live that you
0:42:35	might affect like you know how they are doing with the program so yes of
0:42:41	human factor i would just try to make ourselves available offer both mentors and interest
0:42:45	to talk to us of is the right issues and hopefully try to help resolve
0:42:50	some and so this
0:42:53	and also like mentors like happened you know varied expectations
0:42:59	you know i think like
0:43:01	again like i approach is very much as a fellowship you know people change direction
0:43:05	a you know just
0:43:08	it's
0:43:10	i think the approach is more relaxed and like just like giving people the opportunity
0:43:14	to develop themselves and you know some mentors that to use to like very like
0:43:20	creature it like will some of course structure so we need to talk to sam's
0:43:24	of this
0:43:25	not helping would like just
0:43:29	anybody else have any questions we just
0:43:41	so what's next i mean we've been expanding the program a lot a lot of
0:43:46	other organisations are participating and we have a lot of participants
0:43:50	what what's next what's your to train and then there i
0:43:56	i'm here
0:43:58	that's a good question
0:44:00	i still feel like you know the program has like grown so much in this
0:44:05	year is that we just need to iterate and like
0:44:08	like you know just be more mature was like an application system and you know
0:44:14	of course you know there are hundred fifty of so free stuff organisations participating in
0:44:19	google summer of code and like you know the percentage of women participating with a
0:44:25	across a little what was like nine point five percent and percentage of women was
0:44:30	organisations participate in both all P W and google summer what was more like searching
0:44:34	point five percent
0:44:36	i mean basically next is that
0:44:38	the world joins us you know we take over the world
0:44:57	no she
0:44:58	so do you think there will be a meg you know she ask what's coming
0:45:04	next and do you think there will be a moment when we want to need
0:45:09	that next
0:45:10	time to happen like you know like we feel like
0:45:15	we are integrated right so it's a it's a great question and i think it's
0:45:21	a great question "'cause" i have and answers that i thought of what and i
0:45:24	like that question and which is a you know well internally we might feel that
0:45:31	we are integrated and you know for all we know we will reach fifty percent
0:45:34	participation right in a you know we will feel like that
0:45:38	you know
0:45:40	you know women and men feel equally comfortable in the community a but you know
0:45:45	the world outside of us like has a lot of stereotypes and the lists are
0:45:49	attached and not going to we easily so externally
0:45:55	people might still like not know how open we are internally so we ice i
0:46:00	think that will
0:46:02	will needs to be doing this for a long time
0:46:14	i
0:46:17	i just like sky you use an spoke about a contract
0:46:22	in the air in E in the options we complement this within their first previously
0:46:28	well what is this about how and where can we read more about it
0:46:32	i'm just checking like are we running over no we have to three two minutes
0:46:39	okay so
0:46:41	so it's illegal contract for that mentors and interns assigned because we just we realised
0:46:50	that you know we need to formalise it more like this has been very much
0:46:54	a grassroots effort for the confrontation a but out as we have more actors in
0:47:00	the legal sense in that you know we need to protect the confrontation so you
0:47:05	know things like you know that's
0:47:08	give a mentor is
0:47:10	you know acting badly towards an interim but things are is that minutes use a
0:47:14	confrontation it's that type of things and that the you know the basically that it's
0:47:20	a contract that project that you know foundation
0:47:24	from seen that are basically outside of our control and it's basically something that you
0:47:31	know karen you know where really helped us implement and worked with
0:47:37	as a rope and great a that this for us
0:47:41	so that i will or a yes it's a little for it's a little from
0:47:45	that the problem no work for norman diaspora wanna work for the common
0:47:50	you know other for other things
0:47:53	i just ask one more one last question a well what is that we will
0:47:59	be the what exactly are the mentors agreed you went when we think is
0:48:06	each you can put a contract because they have to be about even they can
0:48:10	see no foundation that's all fine you know from a legal point if you that
0:48:13	makes right sense are we started ignore foundation why you know how easy it just
0:48:21	right it's a sign some so it's mentors across all those sixteen organisations participate in
0:48:28	this year so it's people we don't know
0:48:31	is it's not just the confrontation are a male members it's people across many organisations
0:48:39	and i don't remember like this specifics of the terrace but i mean some of
0:48:43	it is basically just saying you know how you will be available and provide help
0:48:47	to see in turn
0:48:50	i mean maybe there is like a reverse statement that like
0:48:53	if
0:48:54	you know inter and you know all the problem for our mentors and ugliness you
0:48:59	that know phonation like it's basically
0:49:02	i mean i'll probably have to talk to cared about was a we can make
0:49:05	those are public or you know like and show them to anybody interested
0:49:14	but basically we just have like so many people involves this now that we have
0:49:18	like that we don't know that we needed to formalise
0:49:23	okay that's good
0:49:25	anybody else i mentioned
0:49:29	i think that you know if you know it's about time alright thank you thank
0:49:33	you everybody number first of all

Outreach Program for Women: Lessons in Collaboration

Community Outreach Track

Marina Zhurakhinskaya