0:00:11 | everyone |
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0:00:14 | just a bit about myself first so you know what i'm talking about this i |
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0:00:19 | first became involved as them contributor |
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0:00:22 | if you years ago when they put the speakers and outreach program and i have |
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0:00:25 | some state on and it's i have a meant to the number of vendors i |
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0:00:31 | have mended to attic outreach program of the one now and if you outside the |
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0:00:36 | program as well |
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0:00:38 | i've become quite involved in the comedian should think |
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0:00:41 | and now i will depart will work with people who are actually starting actually to |
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0:00:46 | the community for the first time |
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0:00:48 | and well you what might have very different expectations |
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0:00:52 | and some people come as the user like as i have so i have been |
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0:00:57 | a user for sex seven to half years now but then each arts are contributing |
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0:01:01 | a few years ago |
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0:01:02 | and some people come to work for example if they are doing an internship with |
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0:01:06 | a company and |
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0:01:08 | and they're not companies and opened them they might want for their interns to work |
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0:01:13 | with the community to fix some bugs |
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0:01:16 | that happens quite often |
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0:01:18 | so gently percent someone comes along which is exactly what type of this well as |
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0:01:22 | almost everyone does that is they just went about to fix |
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0:01:26 | a somehow fix that usually some really bad patch |
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0:01:30 | and they further with the wall but still it and for get about that well |
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0:01:34 | maybe not forget about that in quite that way sometimes they will |
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0:01:38 | say come back to the few among like to save why hasn't this been committed |
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0:01:42 | or if you sometimes the developer mentally or one of the other developers will review |
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0:01:49 | it and commit that some still just outright rejected that in your reasons |
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0:01:53 | and sometimes they'll just fix it up themselves and tell us so possibly back to |
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0:01:57 | the person who actually wrote that's |
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0:02:00 | and so it varies quite a lot but so that's but actually get he'd become |
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0:02:05 | for the community and it just doesn't work with getting people |
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0:02:10 | people see that happen and they just me because |
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0:02:13 | they didn't get anything |
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0:02:17 | so |
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0:02:19 | the way to actually become point meetings to talk to the can if you can |
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0:02:23 | talk to the person who's doing work for you that you didn't get to know |
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0:02:27 | you don't understand why maybe the drinks things a certain way which are not happy |
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0:02:31 | with as well and as the contributing you might not understand what the developer is |
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0:02:36 | trying to get you do something like you don't think is right |
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0:02:40 | so you really need to talk to people and also i think starting are usually |
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0:02:46 | just mousey it was really friendly there's no harm in just asking questions and generally |
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0:02:53 | people get really positive responses |
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0:02:57 | there are like we actually have i name lot of fruit which is |
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0:03:04 | which consists of difference a lot across all the aspects we have people who are |
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0:03:11 | willing to mentoring all once more tasks for all |
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0:03:14 | would like you can go and ask that you can just look at the list |
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0:03:17 | of people and you can go up to them and ask and almost at all |
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0:03:20 | the will just say sure all hope you all that you |
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0:03:25 | so it's definitely what talking and actually the best thing you can do is talk |
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0:03:30 | to people at conferences |
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0:03:32 | even if you're not really for the community at it's so what's going because you |
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0:03:36 | can actually meet everyone and you just become really involved when you realise ones also |
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0:03:43 | so ask for help |
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0:03:47 | use the resources that are available |
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0:03:50 | and just try to get in there and some get people to help you and |
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0:03:56 | but you need to actually ask what the hell |
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0:03:59 | and sometimes people might be a little bit want one event like you and something |
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0:04:03 | like you very much |
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0:04:05 | we have had the location box somewhere |
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0:04:08 | someone's well the wide explains why they thought that was about and that's always come |
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0:04:11 | along and said that it's possible and after that |
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0:04:15 | i don't happens and that's okay |
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0:04:18 | people have lives outside |
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0:04:20 | so not everyone actually has time to go through every single but that like gets |
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0:04:25 | filed against the project and you really liked about you explain how the point have |
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0:04:30 | works in detail because actually that is very time-consuming i can relate to that because |
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0:04:36 | i have on occasion had so |
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0:04:38 | some people like file loads of bugs in one go and attach say twenty patches |
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0:04:43 | each of which that takes a whole data review and let's be honest i don't |
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0:04:48 | have twenty days to review twenty patches because i've got work to do i've got |
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0:04:53 | other projects to contribute that i'm working on a of like outside the minutes |
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0:04:57 | and that's just one right expects |
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0:04:59 | okay innocent for viewers to actually be able to deal with that |
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0:05:03 | and i know it's have we does happen to other people in the spring |
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0:05:07 | so please don't do that to maintain is these them do that to a review |
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0:05:13 | it's just not very fair on them and you will actually get really bad results |
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0:05:17 | as a contributor |
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0:05:20 | so try to like it's the first batch is always the most difficult one out |
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0:05:25 | of all the patches so contributors need to try be considered was the review where |
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0:05:30 | is try to make it easier for the patch to be reviewed which usually means |
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0:05:34 | it's actually easiest to |
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0:05:36 | to if we are first batch to be a really small sites |
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0:05:39 | just a short patch to fix |
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0:05:41 | my |
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0:05:42 | rather than a very big one which anson if each or something like that |
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0:05:46 | and us be patient but you contribute is like we don't always know that someone |
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0:05:52 | is who has just well the patch is the it's really difficult to tell |
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0:05:57 | and |
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0:05:57 | to be honest there is no way of knowing allegedly actually talked about |
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0:06:01 | so we should always talk to the contributors and always find out why there are |
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0:06:06 | these huge patches all of a sudden when we never heard |
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0:06:10 | and the sometimes it's actually rather the going back and forth and reading something say |
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0:06:15 | for and having twenty reviews catalogue still which is a real pain |
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0:06:19 | just sometimes maybe austin trying what something smaller |
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0:06:23 | and get back to that once there but for experience |
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0:06:29 | of course |
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0:06:30 | then you can choose can always make it easier for us to review and we |
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0:06:35 | really appreciate that |
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0:06:37 | and the best way to do that is to actually find out how the project |
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0:06:40 | works because different projects but for different what |
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0:06:44 | i want to completion team and generally would prefer for new contributors go through bookseller |
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0:06:49 | because than anyone that you review the work |
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0:06:53 | and we have quite high standards for what we want to and is |
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0:06:58 | we spent a lot of time getting our project up to really good quality and |
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0:07:03 | we would like that so we don't we don't accept at every single patch that |
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0:07:06 | comes along something as we go back and forth with review what before we're happy |
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0:07:11 | that |
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0:07:12 | and we are trying to get the person who's contributing to actually perfected themselves rather |
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0:07:17 | than touching up attachments all you have for think minor things like indentation what senator |
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0:07:22 | some other projects |
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0:07:23 | but a is will just take a patch and they will fix some things like |
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0:07:27 | that so |
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0:07:28 | and that based on project what |
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0:07:31 | for example well like and then we most of us prefer for patches to get |
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0:07:36 | about so sometimes like very small patches are some artsy just expand very is very |
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0:07:43 | small |
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0:07:44 | or by email directly to them and they know or reviewer |
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0:07:49 | but generally to about so on the other hand there other projects which have quite |
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0:07:53 | a different one for example for the current know all the patches good for me |
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0:07:56 | let's |
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0:07:57 | and that can be quite scary to present you do that |
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0:08:01 | because generally it's a completely different way of sending patches and it |
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0:08:05 | but if the contributors knows what we expect of that and that we know what |
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0:08:11 | they expect of us than this whole process is easier |
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0:08:15 | of course it does actually help what and this is where many contributors |
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0:08:20 | fail slightly and that they didn't test their patches they didn't build |
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0:08:25 | and they didn't test whether everything |
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0:08:29 | so i was actually quite cumbersome to explain so why for example the change gold |
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0:08:33 | installation is not working |
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0:08:36 | for i see it's very difficult and so i recently i was recently working with |
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0:08:41 | a girl who |
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0:08:43 | was trying to use change build one last time and took her two weeks to |
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0:08:47 | get to working state for a very simple application which for me builds out of |
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0:08:52 | the box |
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0:08:53 | i just |
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0:08:54 | it took me five that's get built a form at the two weeks i don't |
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0:08:58 | actually very difficult to debug that's but it's really what they have to because now |
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0:09:04 | that she has a running she's actually able to document the latest version of the |
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0:09:08 | application what's in boston which means she's not we still have |
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0:09:12 | by fixing things which are really fixed |
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0:09:17 | and of course what also happens what open is that |
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0:09:21 | like will submit a patch and the whole set of the solar it for more |
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0:09:25 | maybe for to just because i think that might be busy there someone else to |
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0:09:29 | you about also happens |
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0:09:32 | it's really worth being page |
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0:09:36 | it really is but on the other |
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0:09:40 | that you need for up as a contributor if you don't |
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0:09:44 | then your patch much of sport and that will become obsolete that's not really |
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0:09:49 | what that to be honest |
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0:09:51 | it's a waste of your time as a contributor it's a waste of them they |
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0:09:54 | have time |
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0:09:55 | as maintainer because paul we don't meet someone else of concept of ready fixed we |
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0:09:58 | had |
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0:10:00 | so far the with your and for work with a review |
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0:10:05 | but be patient since my kids people because people really didn't like that and they |
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0:10:09 | want treaty as well if you do that |
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0:10:13 | and of course it as i was saying it always helps to make good contribution |
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0:10:17 | so make sure your contributions of a high quality the best you can do you |
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0:10:21 | and maybe you should so consider talking to the community before you actually start making |
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0:10:28 | before you start writing it because |
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0:10:31 | sometimes the development data have very specific ideas about how they want to certain about |
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0:10:36 | six i'm not might not be compatible with yours and sometimes they're the different ways |
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0:10:40 | to fix the same power |
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0:10:43 | so do to go back and actually talk to people |
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0:10:47 | do discuss how you're going to fix things |
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0:10:50 | and if you're reviewing patch assessment think that or if you're |
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0:10:56 | tell them what you expect |
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0:10:59 | don't accept that you shouldn't always accepts |
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0:11:03 | i've fixed which are not what we have to it's not it is actually what |
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0:11:05 | going back and asking people to fix stuff that way because then they realise that |
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0:11:09 | what they're doing your thing and the like |
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0:11:13 | and that's all have |
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0:11:15 | so also make so you know you know what the work for your project is |
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0:11:20 | busy much for each other that well into business with what |
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0:11:25 | this they have talked to them and they you know whatever fever |
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0:11:29 | stick to |
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0:11:30 | tried to comply because that will make the reviewer's job easier and the that means |
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0:11:35 | they will have more time to if you know patches or they will have more |
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0:11:39 | likely some losses patches either way what you but |
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0:11:46 | and once you start contributing you've contributed if you times you are get to know |
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0:11:51 | what the project is like you know work with that |
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0:11:54 | and you something |
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0:11:56 | most of the people from the community |
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0:11:59 | and if you actually don't really have all the project you should become foundation that's |
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0:12:04 | how it works |
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0:12:05 | as a punishment thank you get small parts it's very good and you get a |
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0:12:09 | bit for the board as well |
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0:12:13 | so this is actually more like what you expect |
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0:12:18 | you don't want you to be a you'll find your problem and starts firing up |
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0:12:22 | i try to michael sometimes you will if a simple boxing might but actually but |
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0:12:26 | average want you might find that your about an application you think that's it |
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0:12:30 | it might be something else |
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0:12:32 | and you need to find that and you need to fix beverage that's the right |
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0:12:35 | way to do things |
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0:12:38 | it's actually in the long run better for the whole projects |
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0:12:41 | if you don't take shortcuts do things for me if you know who to talk |
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0:12:44 | to and you actually that are out who to talked about certain parts of the |
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0:12:48 | project |
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0:12:50 | it comes with experience |
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0:12:52 | but that is actually you want you should |
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0:12:57 | okay with me to of got simply who is white under from the previous outreach |
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0:13:01 | program |
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0:13:03 | she has actually had experiences with which is what we surely so tribute lots here |
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0:13:10 | which is good for you have you found |
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0:13:18 | i i'm single |
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0:13:21 | i'm very send job change program from an intern in thought now i'm doing we |
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0:13:27 | will some record internship but no |
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0:13:30 | still a i mean you tell you my experience is we how we started country |
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0:13:37 | rooting through the documentation team |
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0:13:41 | first are still free eight years i'd use you know for each years now in |
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0:13:47 | to i the only question in the back my head with how do i start |
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0:13:52 | okay start you know with the starting point with the start button |
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0:13:56 | and they'll |
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0:13:57 | true do you might experience i learned that you just start with your favourite application |
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0:14:02 | or me whichever application using your favourites |
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0:14:07 | so look for buttons look for problems in your favourite application |
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0:14:12 | in start small |
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0:14:14 | i didn't i couldn't do anything big the first batch i mean what a one |
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0:14:22 | line change and non dictionary documentation it was just one line you know he was |
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0:14:28 | way small but what i did that i could i could start making other step |
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0:14:35 | and tell i have to learn a couple of new tools like mallard |
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0:14:40 | for writing this hell |
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0:14:43 | and i did not know how to order hungry start using all the stuff i |
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0:14:47 | don't remember but i don't know |
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0:14:49 | and i sort okay so i'm gonna open up an editor and i'm gonna use |
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0:14:54 | mallard to make a page about myself i like so and so |
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0:14:59 | and there in about ten to fifteen minutes that evening i lunch mallard |
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0:15:05 | i wrote everything about myself in that page and so i use that to make |
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0:15:12 | a fun project for that evening |
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0:15:15 | nine next step what do we this light words |
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0:15:19 | in be sign words are we keep ages |
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0:15:23 | you google upstart you go to non week and you meet real people in these |
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0:15:29 | real people who are on i receive mailing this chat |
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0:15:33 | so or we could just are nothing but sign words they tell you to talk |
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0:15:38 | to our what you can expect from the project what tell tasks that ought to |
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0:15:43 | be completed in the project |
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0:15:46 | these are the sign words you must read and there in plain english so anybody |
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0:15:50 | can understand it |
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0:15:53 | then i have a question how can i help how can i do my part |
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0:15:58 | when i did not know what i can do or how we can start i |
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0:16:02 | did that one question everyone how can i help there is nothing in a list |
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0:16:06 | of the gonna love that it's me so i asked the person i'm talking to |
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0:16:10 | do you know anything i can do |
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0:16:12 | and you would give me a related stuff so i'd like to onto that in |
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0:16:18 | do more things |
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0:16:21 | this is my favourite a lot one of your mentors |
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0:16:26 | so i think about in so it's in the procedure of being sold someone's asking |
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0:16:32 | to do something on the page and i want to watch it i want to |
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0:16:35 | know how they're going to fix that wanna watch them fix it so i see |
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0:16:39 | myself there is a there is a call them would like to add your email |
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0:16:44 | the but it and i a lot how people are doing things i don't participate |
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0:16:49 | i just well i watch the conversation up till the end in so i learn |
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0:16:54 | new things from looking at a lot of it long working and what is a |
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0:16:58 | what is appreciated what is not appreciated i learn by observation |
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0:17:05 | so once i start walking i mean it starts printing a little faster |
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0:17:12 | the first step and sprinting is just start talking to participate to say but hey |
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0:17:18 | i'm interested and that's you know to raise up your hand |
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0:17:21 | and when i mean participates |
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0:17:23 | i look at the but page in if there is anything not all is not |
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0:17:28 | something i don't understand i mean try to commence but before it was that it |
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0:17:33 | meant i'm going to read it and see if i asked what i want to |
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0:17:38 | know what i what answer what answer to the question i want to receive feel |
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0:17:43 | i make sure my questions are simple |
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0:17:48 | there specifically about something i meet my commands before i posted |
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0:17:55 | and i get the conversation going |
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0:17:58 | the next step that i did when i start contributing with do is cancer documentation |
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0:18:05 | i'm i have terrible lack of focus and so |
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0:18:10 | i got the resources the resources for a project ready sell your looking at documentation |
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0:18:18 | out there is |
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0:18:19 | our a know develop a lot of our project style guide open projects that i |
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0:18:25 | feel it's all our data but it's what they read in the menu scheme to |
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0:18:29 | read you become familiar with |
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0:18:31 | many parks that you want to describe in your documentation |
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0:18:36 | in that there is another kind in line documentation when i started no i'm somewhat |
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0:18:41 | of course |
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0:18:42 | you know |
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0:18:44 | okay so it was like order start from problem know what to use in there |
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0:18:48 | is in line core blocks documentation so these are information about what functions you can |
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0:18:53 | use and there within and like pretty so i started reading that a with this |
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0:18:57 | i can do this so that's good but don't know |
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0:19:01 | when i did not know what's going on or i face didn't have a or |
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0:19:07 | a syntax that or any kind of at a i just simply copy paste the |
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0:19:11 | thing in google and look it up and look it up in many different ways |
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0:19:15 | many different such very nice |
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0:19:16 | because i the one can help myself best because i know the problem in sell |
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0:19:22 | it's high likely that there are other people like me facing the same problem looking |
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0:19:26 | for a solution so |
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0:19:29 | all people as you that they're unique case no that's not true you problem you're |
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0:19:35 | facing it's not it's very likely that someone else had the same problem and he's |
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0:19:40 | posted on mailing lists right |
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0:19:42 | so if you have a much that you could to go you can fix it |
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0:19:45 | yourself |
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0:19:47 | and then another thing i for with turned the page backwards |
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0:19:53 | i follow examples how do it by observing stuff |
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0:19:57 | so i have originally use a manual for non dictionary in someone's later i came |
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0:20:02 | to know of that it wasn't released so would be what i did with not |
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0:20:07 | available for packaging for users to see the use of manual is not there |
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0:20:12 | in a i i'm gonna do it myself how |
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0:20:17 | so i went to the we keep pages i went through previous really them it's |
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0:20:22 | and i just |
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0:20:24 | although the same step by step thing and i ended up doing big non fiction |
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0:20:28 | and we used by myself in the help of my |
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0:20:32 | man you know |
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0:20:36 | so |
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0:20:37 | keep your keep your options open look at examples |
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0:20:41 | and don't is better than perfect so when i first run and around the of |
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0:20:47 | the relief we do with of my mentor already manual sell he you know you |
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0:20:53 | could fix that there was suggestions back and forth and it was nice it's better |
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0:20:58 | than perfect just put it out there so they're gonna tell you what's wrong and |
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0:21:02 | you can work on it you can you can see previous example you can learn |
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0:21:05 | from it |
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0:21:08 | okay now that we did good sprinter let's start running in the though and how |
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0:21:14 | do you do it fast you might read faster |
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0:21:18 | specifies the |
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0:21:19 | and i when i submitted patches on a on but pages i'm each other my |
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0:21:24 | email was right next to me i was glancing at it because they are it's |
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0:21:28 | likely your review will give you an instant review or you'll have to bring someone |
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0:21:32 | with whatever it is people watcher we email in you will be subscribe to the |
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0:21:36 | what we also you can communicate when that person is we see are you gotta |
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0:21:41 | you don't you should weights on the person was gonna give your review |
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0:21:46 | and so |
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0:21:48 | if you're gonna be fast you gonna get ahead in i submit things that standard |
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0:21:52 | patches and you catching up on the reviews you know don't let other people weeks |
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0:21:57 | for you writing as soon as you see it do it |
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0:22:01 | and learn from your function |
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0:22:04 | well when i was in the audience for government internship my mentor how to repeatedly |
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0:22:10 | fee and i decided that you know a very limited amount of memory what i'm |
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0:22:15 | gonna do doesn't make check with i'm gonna make czech bliss |
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0:22:18 | so i can run my work against it every time i submitted and this is |
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0:22:21 | a good check so he started we you know step by step i am you |
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0:22:27 | level in the product of have so when i don't check list your use different |
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0:22:31 | sections my what what's out review because i can help myself best |
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0:22:36 | in that i can learn from examples i can learn from previous advice |
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0:22:40 | i just need to make a check with |
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0:22:43 | in i i'd like to say the support the greatest like tell us tell you |
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0:22:49 | and remember that |
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0:22:50 | it is for other member and it's go on what are what are we couldn't |
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0:22:55 | do you know it was three there or so i write everything down unnecessary everything |
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0:23:01 | that i would have done so because it is useful for other somebody else like |
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0:23:06 | you is looking for help any you write down if you pick something if your |
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0:23:09 | family something it helps it helps that some other person is going through the same |
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0:23:14 | thing as you so you are documenting your learning process in so you should make |
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0:23:18 | we keep pages check this out |
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0:23:21 | but i was somewhat you learn what you fix what you're not able to learn |
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0:23:25 | your problems it's good to write things down |
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0:23:31 | now we have a started running are doing good for doing good in we cannot |
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0:23:36 | on long distance and they say this is something i've been falling for a while |
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0:23:41 | now |
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0:23:42 | i'm be snoopy person so i still one people on but don't know in a |
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0:23:49 | there is a but law a |
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0:23:52 | people use but the love for submitting patches |
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0:23:55 | one of them is you folder you mentors you can watch your mentors activities so |
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0:24:00 | you know what of what your views the giving you can learn from their comments |
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0:24:05 | and so you can see the new but i think i hope you can you |
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0:24:09 | can watch projects so you can see new bucks or you can also make bookmarks |
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0:24:14 | that you can check for particular keywords so you're interested in fixing easy no buttons |
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0:24:20 | what market you can check out you can search but if you can book market |
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0:24:23 | you can check it once in a while |
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0:24:26 | that's about the like tricks like that and i i've written a lot was about |
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0:24:30 | how you can start of you know keeping on top of but will activity can |
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0:24:34 | see that at the end like the end |
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0:24:36 | and |
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0:24:38 | you must allow people to have okay so you use to be open you have |
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0:24:43 | you of you have some questions and we a little |
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0:24:47 | get you authors you so if i think something for me she saw something for |
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0:24:53 | me at anybody saw something for me i would ask them what to do that |
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0:24:57 | i wanna know that |
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0:24:58 | you know you a because you should learn from how they've done it |
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0:25:03 | still you can teach someone else you can learn yourself in the learning process that |
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0:25:07 | going on |
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0:25:09 | next one is not |
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0:25:11 | an alignment still be documentation according you need we can test what you've written what |
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0:25:18 | you've done |
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0:25:19 | in the just like get a little tricky because there a couple options and what |
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0:25:24 | might well a somehow what everyone else |
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0:25:28 | so i've been told to install it it's built for some time |
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0:25:34 | why render of every know i hide open and if they used the edge build |
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0:25:39 | sell it gentleness get but it didn't work for me so i have an alternate |
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0:25:46 | method how i do things like compile build that |
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0:25:49 | so whatever what's the you look it up and stick to it |
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0:25:53 | makes you do new things |
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0:25:56 | i start the documentation in i was interested according fixing about |
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0:26:01 | and how to fix bugs you know the easiest bugs the string bugs so is |
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0:26:06 | ellipses are a bit all have |
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0:26:08 | have to letters not there and that you know string buttons thank you see on |
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0:26:13 | the screen so you i start fixing string about it when it starts |
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0:26:17 | fixing string but i |
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0:26:19 | i noticed other about and i've read a bit of cool so you know it'll |
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0:26:23 | start making sense |
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0:26:25 | you can fix usability bugs summer very easy |
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0:26:29 | and that's when i start getting acquainted more with cold and i eventually made the |
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0:26:32 | jump to look some record and this is this is all i mean the transition |
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0:26:39 | from a writing in english writing documentation in english to courting and of all are |
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0:26:46 | and using the libraries |
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0:26:50 | so you should be all been to new tasks |
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0:26:53 | and you know do you think's there is there is already and now of instructions |
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0:26:58 | out that so try following get and then you do it you succeed at it |
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0:27:02 | break that down |
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0:27:03 | okay in that's what happened with the norm dictionary release i so i followed existing |
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0:27:08 | we keep features and then i did it and i wrote it down so someone |
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0:27:12 | else tomorrow of maybe wanting to literally skin followed the same example and set the |
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0:27:17 | ball rolling |
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0:27:21 | i'm just gonna hand this are working |
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0:27:24 | okay |
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0:27:27 | there are basically the result of those you have what you call for against the |
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0:27:32 | community because it seems like a big you know |
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0:27:37 | you know |
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0:27:39 | just go i hope you people or |
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0:27:44 | that's the most important thing |
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0:27:46 | even if you think your questions as you or you know so first for |
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0:27:51 | but you still you also just |
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0:27:53 | so okay well okay |
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0:27:57 | well have everything |
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0:27:58 | the emphasis |
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0:28:00 | people developers the advanced want things a very specific way we want what sets people |
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0:28:06 | apart right |
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0:28:08 | so ask us |
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0:28:10 | our sparse how you we wanted on and we will help |
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0:28:13 | will help you put your bunched together make sure that it's actually will be accepted |
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0:28:18 | and will be accepted that they'll be happy |
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0:28:22 | but whatever you do don't be apathetic because if you don't care about your patch |
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0:28:28 | it will get one |
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0:28:30 | so you have to care about you really have to make sure like |
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0:28:33 | if you believe in something party |
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0:28:36 | it's fine |
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0:28:37 | and make sure that you get what he wants somewhere other a that means adapting |
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0:28:42 | to the T not sure why not |
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0:28:45 | but if you want about fixed try to fix that |
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0:28:47 | just and about |
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0:28:51 | thank you |
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0:28:59 | does anyone have any quest |
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0:29:11 | so before in the slides you guys say that you will be you to write |
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0:29:17 | good commit messages i would like you to explain to new people what any good |
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0:29:24 | can mean messages |
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0:29:27 | most projects most active projects have lots that's a good message is where you can |
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0:29:33 | look at the smoke message of you can read that fight so i thought that |
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0:29:38 | we will know what that dog |
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0:29:40 | and if you actually look at the detail that |
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0:29:43 | just a description |
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0:29:45 | then you will be able to understand white system that way |
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0:29:49 | because otherwise like trying to maintain something with methods to just like |
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0:29:53 | say |
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0:29:55 | fixed dialogue is useless because and you run the person comes looks and that does |
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0:30:00 | not understand what's going on just for about |
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0:30:03 | so get detail |
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0:30:05 | but also be concise and precise use titles i you commit titles which are short |
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0:30:11 | we wouldn't under fifty characters will and if you need to give more detail than |
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0:30:16 | at the second paragraph with more detail it the commit fixes a bug |
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0:30:20 | include about so the people have the right |
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0:30:23 | and the same goes public so it it's a it but you fix the bottom |
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0:30:27 | but still |
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0:30:28 | say that the specs like to the can that's the people actually all the top |
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0:30:31 | so they can look at the big about they can be realised that connected it |
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0:30:36 | sometimes about have very long discussion about why something |
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0:30:39 | but what i'm really useful to be able to look to figure out that |
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0:30:56 | so a this in i me i gene if you subscribe to page you should |
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0:31:14 | yes that all any changes that makes it and everything there's a change made which |
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0:31:18 | is not trivial you should get that if occasion but yes i would use a |
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0:31:21 | but all their folder actually what it will not be a buttons for to the |
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0:31:27 | people who are in charge of the team that will work well actually just of |
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0:31:31 | the T they will tell you which them what pages are for example the docking |
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0:31:35 | station team has money page which has all the right shot but actually interesting page |
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0:31:39 | to watch is that location helps take |
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0:31:41 | which is have the way some |
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0:31:44 | i think so i think they have pages where they what you like science fiction |
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0:31:52 | really |
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0:31:54 | so do actually a what |
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0:31:58 | i was actually looking more for you know like your content like in what i |
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0:32:02 | mean we have had it's in a meeting that we just put up and i |
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0:32:05 | don't know what quite to wayne that be justin |
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0:32:08 | what follows specific users and see what changes do making that had there is that |
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0:32:23 | i just wanted to comment that there is on the week is there is the |
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0:32:27 | week you don't know the to work slash recent changes speech that you can get |
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0:32:31 | to from a like any page that there is like a temperate and that's a |
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0:32:35 | great way to like which everybody's activity that's actually there is |
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0:32:43 | okay |
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0:32:46 | i can't on you beginning an amazing job with the degradation team with involves of |
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0:32:51 | course a lot of bugs and patches and commands and all of this but you |
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0:32:56 | can also contributing to project the to the project in many other different place and |
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0:33:00 | i'd like to know the way to start contributing in order waste beside school is |
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0:33:04 | it similar to this to a lot of you present that now i have any |
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0:33:08 | tips and this kind of thing |
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0:33:13 | it that |
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0:33:14 | basically how you really but also you say only one volunteering lot thirty |
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0:33:23 | i actually became foundation member after i hope for vice that |
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0:33:29 | i think to go that's just as valuable and we have what's translation |
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0:33:35 | so there may the place is actually wait |
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0:33:49 | thank you very much for that and i hope you have a nice thing jack |
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0:33:53 | that's what |
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