0:00:11 | one |
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0:00:12 | as they've it's adam again it's mine's |
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0:00:17 | and |
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0:00:19 | might all not report your you expert |
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0:00:22 | and there are a couple of things about the title of the stock |
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0:00:26 | and the first one is that it |
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0:00:28 | based on my master's thesis so everything i'm gonna talk about here on is based |
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0:00:33 | on the research i do it it'd during my master's thesis |
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0:00:36 | and the actual title of my thesis this |
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0:00:40 | a bit longer than you know report your you expired it's something like support supporting |
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0:00:46 | and user reporting of human computer interaction issues than open sort supper |
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0:00:50 | and then read that this is not a what if i told you need to |
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0:00:54 | do better than this |
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0:00:58 | then and we ended up with how to not report on your you expired even |
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0:01:02 | though the i'm gonna talk and not only about how not to do it but |
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0:01:06 | also about how to do it based on what i've been looking into and what |
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0:01:11 | i've been talking with people in the community |
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0:01:14 | so let me introduce me so i'm gonna small |
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0:01:17 | i got involved you know community last year this is my second product |
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0:01:23 | i was and now for each in turn working the island |
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0:01:28 | and big you works project a so i did a redesign for to use application |
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0:01:34 | right now i'm contributing to the web seem and also to the marketing team and |
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0:01:38 | i do a lot of work and that's |
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0:01:40 | and as i said i did my master's thesis on |
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0:01:45 | how to support on users in reporting on you what's buds on user interface bugs |
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0:01:51 | user experience bugs that are actually helpful for designers actually visible for designers to work |
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0:01:58 | so what i did something up and not gonna go into a lot of the |
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0:02:02 | details of my research because they think that's gonna be boring it's a lot of |
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0:02:07 | mythological stuff so what i did they did for interviews with us designers working in |
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0:02:12 | and three an open source projects |
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0:02:14 | and found that the door indignant project |
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0:02:17 | and i also then an analysis of i hundred and forty seven bucks in big |
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0:02:23 | numbers a lot |
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0:02:24 | i will only but i don't are on usability and you why we the so |
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0:02:30 | basically what we could roughly filter as our usability and you what buttons |
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0:02:37 | based on that i came up with a couple findings about how are designers work |
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0:02:43 | with on reports and how they tackle feedback how they used it's true to work |
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0:02:49 | and an iterative designs and everything |
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0:02:52 | and by analysing a couple but they could understand a bit how we doing you |
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0:02:57 | experts apparently and |
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0:02:59 | and by comparing this to what designers told me i can understand better on what |
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0:03:03 | is the gaps that we're dealing with between what we were doing in what we |
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0:03:07 | should do |
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0:03:10 | so i'm gonna start with telling you guys why should you care why should you |
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0:03:13 | care about reporting your you what's bugs in |
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0:03:17 | well i mean why should you actually more about doing this |
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0:03:21 | and there are two reasons that i would say it's very important for you to |
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0:03:25 | report that's in a way that people can actually act upon this |
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0:03:29 | i'm right i'm i'd like to remind that i'm talking about you what's bug so |
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0:03:34 | i'm certainly arguments that are specific to this kind about |
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0:03:38 | and also i'm calling this how to not reporting you want but i think this |
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0:03:42 | is a top motes |
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0:03:43 | what's more not only able bugs and but still itself about feedback on your legs |
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0:03:48 | and then how you feel about the interfaces and the experience we have with interfaces |
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0:03:53 | so the first reason is that |
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0:03:55 | a lot of what we report "'em" but still and the feedback we both and |
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0:03:59 | google pause or two meter or you what those we use this for design evaluation |
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0:04:05 | for it are aiding and about winning hard designs are doing and how they are |
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0:04:10 | attempting the users needs and |
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0:04:13 | how exactly how our computer are we doing well with this actually attending the users |
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0:04:17 | needs is it not so we can iterate in the design and fix it so |
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0:04:21 | we can actually better serve our users |
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0:04:25 | the next you should be comic |
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0:04:29 | that i think it's a good example one why you should evaluate and be attentive |
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0:04:33 | and concentrate about our users needs and |
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0:04:37 | people about lighting in being cautious about your design pages |
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0:04:42 | things on average think everybody that has been university can |
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0:04:48 | and relate to this that you university website they're pretty much useless you can never |
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0:04:52 | find what you need or if you can find you have to make it |
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0:04:56 | small quest to find it |
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0:04:59 | so i guess that's what happens and that happens because that |
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0:05:02 | there is a considerable gap between what the person that is actually conceiving a design |
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0:05:09 | and the person that is actually using the design this order person can see there |
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0:05:13 | is a gap year and even not worth designs they study a lot and they |
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0:05:17 | work i want to make this got them in as minimal as possible this it |
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0:05:22 | there is there is going to be this gap and that's why it's really important |
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0:05:27 | first to evaluate so we can understand the ways and people |
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0:05:30 | they are using i mean |
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0:05:32 | you never know when you do some usability testing or when you know |
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0:05:36 | whatever kind of evaluation you never know you you're always surprised about how people appropriate |
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0:05:42 | themselves of technology and the way is the you soft are always like i'd never |
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0:05:46 | talked about using this a preferred to this thing and it's always amazing how unexpected |
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0:05:51 | things from to come up come to surface when you when you without which are |
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0:05:55 | designs with users |
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0:05:58 | so about evaluation method itself |
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0:06:01 | i think that most people want to talk about waiting on what they think about |
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0:06:06 | usability testing straightaway it's the first thing that pops into amount i think people are |
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0:06:10 | very passionate about usability testing they really enjoyed and |
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0:06:16 | the first thing that comes to my and it turns out that |
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0:06:19 | use with lasting is not |
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0:06:21 | the only way to really and speak about free an open source operand how we |
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0:06:25 | work and how with about some great how we created and how we how hard |
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0:06:30 | really cycle is actually is ability this is not quite |
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0:06:34 | suitable for how we work it takes a lot of time |
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0:06:39 | onto plan to execute to analyse the data collected |
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0:06:43 | and it turns out that see as you wanna are really cycle is very short |
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0:06:48 | so by the time we plan the usability testing in the previous versions they have |
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0:06:52 | an owl triplicate we already released people and perhaps even people twelve |
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0:06:57 | and |
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0:06:58 | so it's actually not very suitable for our names it's all those about a lot |
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0:07:03 | about how the problems people face when you get to observe people and everything five |
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0:07:10 | i think in terms of three n-tuples of our software on usability testing is much |
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0:07:16 | more useful when you together a sense of how people wired to better know your |
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0:07:20 | users because that's a problem we will you have an open source to know who |
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0:07:25 | we're dealing it with who are reproducing so for two |
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0:07:29 | another one that's quite popular is with the voice and i think some people might |
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0:07:33 | have heard about it |
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0:07:36 | but it's a an evaluation technique that do not and will user participation on it's |
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0:07:41 | only the designer that on and what or lessons back |
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0:07:45 | the whole interface having in mind some guy right lines and then try to identify |
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0:07:51 | possible |
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0:07:52 | meatballs for users based on this and this and they're popular one but there is |
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0:07:56 | much more to evaluation methods on our user interface design |
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0:08:03 | they're dreaming categories of evolution methods the first one it's investigation methods which are and |
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0:08:09 | i was that do involve or dispassionate users but they're more okay and finding out |
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0:08:14 | to the user is what do they do one a mindset wanted to ask they |
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0:08:19 | needed to accomplish and this kind of thing so it's more like a preliminary thing |
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0:08:23 | that usually do with both like thirties questionnaires some kind of you work so you |
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0:08:28 | go to where people work where they do their task that you just observe how |
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0:08:32 | they used up |
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0:08:35 | there's also inspection methods that they said they were think evolution is an inspection method |
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0:08:39 | they usually do not in both or the speech from the user they are |
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0:08:44 | basically or one but by the designer himself and he just put himself in the |
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0:08:49 | place of the user and trying to go to think about what are the flaws |
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0:08:54 | in the design and what are the problems |
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0:08:57 | and all kind of stuff is the thing we do a lot in our community |
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0:09:00 | in them and i guess innovative other projects with |
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0:09:04 | it's especially because we have a really difficult time to find users it talk to |
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0:09:09 | them and figure out what what's happening |
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0:09:13 | and there's also observation methods which are methods that are also as a investigation methods |
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0:09:18 | they also involve participation from users |
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0:09:21 | but if you those people observing as the name says help be more useful very |
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0:09:25 | healthy are interacting of it how a they use it how the appropriate themselves of |
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0:09:30 | the technology we got hurt |
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0:09:32 | and what i want to propose here is that we think about but reports as |
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0:09:36 | a do for observation still one when i would work a problem that a experience |
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0:09:42 | that i had this is actually a way to design a can observe |
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0:09:45 | is a large expand the problems that i'm facing |
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0:09:50 | and i think that's one of the main uses of but reports from a design |
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0:09:54 | perspective |
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0:09:56 | i don't think you think about bug reports of the contribution |
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0:09:59 | and |
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0:10:02 | would you would you can to be told that for example doesn't work at all |
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0:10:07 | would you can recall that does not solve the problem that this does not fix |
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0:10:11 | an issue |
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0:10:12 | or even more is would you can to be go that only works for you |
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0:10:16 | but |
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0:10:16 | i mean only you can see that problem was fixed |
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0:10:20 | or something like that would anyone do this or at your expense a honorary the |
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0:10:24 | for product with you right implementation that only you can understand |
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0:10:28 | or i don't know would you design the software that only you can use just |
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0:10:32 | think the contribution would you would work about that no one can understand what you're |
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0:10:36 | talking about |
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0:10:38 | would you report about that only you know what you're talking about so it's really |
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0:10:42 | important that we are able to communicate well that we are able to establish use |
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0:10:48 | but reports as a as a breakfast at between are committed in different parts of |
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0:10:52 | maybe as we do with any other kind of contributions we got in our community |
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0:10:58 | so |
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0:11:00 | even having is that why you guys should care about reporting your you expect well |
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0:11:04 | i'm gonna start try telling you guys for to not do this |
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0:11:08 | and i think to begin with the first one is that a guy that a |
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0:11:11 | lot of you guys know |
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0:11:13 | and that is a quote that of all the designers are interview have mentioned in |
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0:11:18 | the exact same way |
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0:11:20 | do |
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0:11:22 | i think that should you want |
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0:11:24 | and they all raised exactly like this |
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0:11:27 | there's a very different a very |
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0:11:30 | it's very different when you say i think something should be like something else and |
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0:11:36 | when you say well i try to do one thing and then i was not |
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0:11:40 | able to do this thing and this make me frustrated or a lot a lot |
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0:11:43 | of time and i expected to do this there's other way |
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0:11:47 | and perhaps you can do this |
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0:11:49 | so it's a it's really a matter of difference rating problem and solution but report |
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0:11:56 | sort of new use if you only offer a solution so i think about when |
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0:12:00 | you go to adapt or do you go to the doctor and you say |
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0:12:04 | i have the flu |
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0:12:06 | that's it i need this and this medication know you go to the doctor and |
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0:12:10 | you say well you know maybe not really very well i have fever i have |
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0:12:14 | this in this pain and i've been not feeling very well you know what's happening |
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0:12:19 | to me and what kind of medication should you so that use you go to |
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0:12:22 | the doctor and you say this is the prescription just try to tear |
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0:12:27 | right |
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0:12:28 | so |
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0:12:29 | this is the same thing with what it's i mean you it's much helpful when |
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0:12:34 | you state the problem that you're actually facing |
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0:12:37 | and not just observe the solution and there's a lot of things that |
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0:12:43 | are also related it is i mean there is a not a minimum a number |
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0:12:47 | of reasons why |
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0:12:48 | it's really hard for designers work on but reports and feedback in general that only |
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0:12:53 | state the solution because i mean when you're bored i mean actually really nice that |
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0:12:58 | everyone wants to be a the kinder and everybody but |
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0:13:01 | sometimes people just not understand this the underlying technology what the problem we deal with |
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0:13:07 | and there's a lot of restrictions sometimes in terms of P how the cold is |
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0:13:11 | itself or actually about their design vision that's it's being taken by D by in |
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0:13:17 | general i mean overall for the project so |
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0:13:20 | there's a lot of information that sometimes people were laughing |
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0:13:23 | and that it actually makes a solution |
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0:13:26 | so |
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0:13:28 | it's okay to propose solution please don't think that i'm not saying you never you |
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0:13:32 | never services that i mean this is how we work we work together and by |
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0:13:37 | an extent i want to by giving the guidelines on |
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0:13:40 | exclude anyone from the discussions that take place i think this is just sell way |
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0:13:44 | so we can get a quick stored on the report and like this a couple |
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0:13:49 | of course because if you do not observer problem what will happen is that the |
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0:13:52 | design it will come to you and say |
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0:13:54 | okay what is exactly the problem that you're having because i mean i can just |
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0:13:58 | add this button perhaps it's not the best solution you know i mean perhaps something |
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0:14:02 | else able soldier problem better and you really don't want to solve the problem that |
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0:14:06 | is not a problem but you have |
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0:14:08 | so it's a proposal isn't as it's okay to submit a patch but i mean |
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0:14:13 | you can you one here just submit a bug with just about your slides |
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0:14:18 | apply it |
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0:14:19 | i mean that's not something we do and it's not something we should do with |
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0:14:22 | design bugs it as well |
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0:14:25 | so it's a possible solution but it should not be your main point it should |
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0:14:29 | not only be able to solution it you think it's gonna be appropriate for your |
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0:14:33 | for |
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0:14:35 | so i think this is the most important part of it let others brainstorm with |
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0:14:38 | you letter hours thing together with you use data probably and you that everyone brainstorm |
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0:14:44 | with you designers developers and everybody out that that's all still experiencing this problem they |
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0:14:48 | can see about reporting can leave a note of they i arrived in also having |
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0:14:52 | this problem with that in this order a quality or characteristic or anything and this |
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0:14:57 | is the solution and everybody can work in this together |
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0:15:00 | you know much more clear way because you you're not actually solving up you're not |
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0:15:05 | giving users what they ask for but actually what we need |
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0:15:10 | no one is it sucks |
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0:15:13 | which comes are several different forms it's comes it's broken it's an hour problem i |
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0:15:19 | don't like it |
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0:15:21 | for whatever reason i just don't like it |
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0:15:24 | it doesn't work |
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0:15:25 | L it's just doesn't i don't i don't really know what's broken but |
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0:15:30 | it's difficult and then it then the next you want they are kind of like |
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0:15:34 | this they are likely that they pretend to be nice feedback for the and actually |
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0:15:37 | not help what L |
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0:15:39 | it's not intuitive |
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0:15:41 | what is it which i mean it's just not helpful |
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0:15:47 | and it's not user friendly i think that one i mean want that to be |
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0:15:52 | evenly maybe it is just this doesn't say anything this kind of feedback it is |
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0:15:56 | not going to the pretend to be helpful but there because they don't answer as |
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0:16:00 | i said before the problem they did not say |
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0:16:03 | why in the why is it that why is it broken why in the way |
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0:16:09 | it doesn't work for you why what exactly about this whole interface you don't like |
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0:16:14 | so i mean it's very it's very easy for us when we were like we |
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0:16:18 | really upset with operates really easy first you just like the anger go with socks |
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0:16:24 | you're such an incompetent are stored but really it's not helpful and i mean we |
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0:16:29 | once problem our problems should be solved |
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0:16:31 | after all i mean we don't want to stick with terrible wouldn't experiences and terrible |
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0:16:35 | winter pieces rubber |
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0:16:37 | so |
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0:16:38 | explain why you have a certain problem why didn't exactly the problem that you have |
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0:16:45 | at least that you don't want to solve a problem that is not the problem |
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0:16:47 | that you have |
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0:16:49 | so if you just say it sucks then i can start i prototyping in which |
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0:16:55 | ways it sucks and i don't know me it sucks for me i think all |
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0:16:59 | it's probably how it sucks for him so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna focus |
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0:17:04 | problem and |
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0:17:05 | in a month or something that's gonna couples again it's not |
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0:17:09 | i'm using at or something like that i'm not using you know many more |
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0:17:15 | the aim of about report is to enable the programmer you see the program flailing |
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0:17:19 | in front of them |
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0:17:21 | this is true for a lot of callbacks so you just described much and then |
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0:17:25 | you try to and use the programmer to reproduce |
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0:17:28 | that like that you had so that you can see the problem failing are crashing |
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0:17:32 | in front of them but it's kind of tricky for you what's but because a |
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0:17:35 | lot of times that you whisper the experience problem already usability problem the really personal |
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0:17:40 | matter it it's really about how you felt about the interface always took a lot |
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0:17:45 | of time it was a to struggle like i could not use it i don't |
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0:17:49 | really competent about it so |
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0:17:51 | it's much harder to just give a designer about and an expectation to reproduce it |
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0:17:57 | to make it the to make the problem fail because the designer have a different |
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0:18:01 | experience they have a different mindset you have the different personality and that he therefore |
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0:18:07 | you definitely there and we have different to stop or |
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0:18:11 | so this prime the context |
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0:18:14 | i've been i've been helping with the i have fights working with you know my |
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0:18:18 | also which may which were dressed and i've been helping them in the forums and |
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0:18:22 | a lot of that they work that it sometimes that in different they just want |
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0:18:26 | to change customise the website somehow |
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0:18:28 | and it's a lot of C S hope and then you just |
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0:18:31 | don't have a again find some success that works for them and so their problem |
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0:18:34 | and it's really help for me when people come and see how to build the |
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0:18:37 | first thing about that |
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0:18:39 | i really don't know this thing because it really gives me a start point a |
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0:18:43 | starting point and how to talk to this user how to solve the problem for |
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0:18:47 | down and or also is different things to me like i don't know i guess |
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0:18:50 | that's what i like reading on it i've been trying to solve it but i |
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0:18:54 | think my favourite i can so this so you know this person doesn't know C |
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0:18:57 | S but he wants to know see as that |
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0:18:59 | so i can help him in a different way i usually try to explain to |
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0:19:02 | be there how to use fire about how to do certain things so it's really |
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0:19:06 | make when you provide complex when you provide information on line to do certain things |
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0:19:10 | what you how you we got to start and stop it really helps people to |
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0:19:15 | impress your problems to help you and to choose so whereabouts |
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0:19:21 | and the third one is most users most users would find this an intuitive it |
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0:19:27 | combines to present or most users i dunno wouldn't want to button to be somewhere |
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0:19:32 | else |
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0:19:33 | and i mean did you actually talk to most users did you actually like |
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0:19:38 | it up fast in your neighbourhood and you set up a most users definitely don't |
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0:19:43 | like this in my neighbourhood and then it would be able to the neighbourhood but |
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0:19:47 | not most users that all so |
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0:19:50 | expenses is that is really personal so you should really talk about yourself about how |
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0:19:54 | you feel how this |
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0:19:57 | because they're first learning convex because of all you you've been dealing with it |
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0:20:02 | why is it is it a problem for you not for most users because you're |
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0:20:06 | just assuming it's a problem for most users and it turns out that several |
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0:20:11 | it's actually a very specific use case that only you have still it's not most |
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0:20:16 | users perhaps the most users had it's very specific use case then you it's another |
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0:20:24 | thing i don't know but in general you lex is a fairly personal matter so |
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0:20:30 | you should always say i want i still i wish i struggle i think it's |
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0:20:35 | about you are experiencing that about that is that the same thing with code you |
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0:20:39 | cannot take it most it precious for most users you know i mean it was |
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0:20:43 | just for you you're using this machine you're having this kind of application running and |
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0:20:49 | whatever you have a certain encompass after nine think that only it's only britain and |
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0:20:53 | for your experience |
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0:20:57 | number of words to really minor and this is the thing and something you think |
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0:21:02 | we should review what the box watching of all right |
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0:21:06 | and think about this right now are gonna minus you i or usability and usability |
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0:21:13 | bugs not you wax as a very minor and as we want to talk more |
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0:21:18 | about our experiences i mean usability problems usually a remove something somewhere or like this |
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0:21:23 | is not consistent with something L's or we should rename this button and it's usually |
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0:21:27 | like the lack of absence of the presence or absence of a certain design characteristic |
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0:21:33 | which i understand that something minor but i mean |
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0:21:36 | alright are you what's but also ready minor issues |
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0:21:40 | it's one cannot figure out how to do something and they just are not able |
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0:21:44 | to do something is there's really it's a very have a really minor issue |
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0:21:49 | it's the not understand what system is the only know if they cannot and they |
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0:21:53 | get this message this dialogue and they have no idea what to do and how |
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0:21:57 | to recover officer dinner it is really a minor issue |
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0:22:02 | it's does not know whole to continue what that's great and that's |
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0:22:06 | it is again assume a minor issue |
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0:22:10 | it's one even more seats one something and they thought it was very successful and |
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0:22:15 | only later do you realise it was not and they were like |
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0:22:18 | but actually did it is it really a minor issue i mean you what the |
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0:22:23 | user to think he was able to accomplish something when he actually it like seems |
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0:22:28 | fine to me but it actually it user actually failed to accomplish what he was |
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0:22:31 | trying to our goals issues and i'm asking this all guys |
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0:22:36 | minor issues or is it like a block or issue a critical matter for that |
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0:22:41 | experience i mean if we are compromising the ability of things which are probably can |
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0:22:45 | do what he |
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0:22:47 | it is really a minor issue the user is not able to use the system |
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0:22:50 | to use needs |
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0:22:52 | and then well as a side i think this is should we should this is |
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0:22:56 | something we should be who was a community together |
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0:22:59 | and perhaps we should think about better i got mine sorry you want like to |
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0:23:02 | specifically for experience but because they can really compromise the whole experience and the whole |
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0:23:08 | use of soccer |
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0:23:10 | there is this is a very ratings and they have a different purpose they therefore |
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0:23:14 | so that a designer can right but on box problems feasibly problem that he found |
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0:23:19 | after doing and usability testing or something or heuristic evaluation and then write them and |
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0:23:24 | then decide what should be big first and this kind of thing so it's not |
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0:23:27 | really if something that the user or the report it uses but it's a start |
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0:23:31 | i guess so the scale is more like they're all going to reduce the problem |
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0:23:36 | too with the cosmetic horrible treats a minor issue for the major issue and five |
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0:23:42 | it's a usability catastrophe like it really compromises the whole thing |
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0:23:47 | so you know i'm gonna talk about how to do it |
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0:23:50 | and after my researcher or talking with what the designers are interview and i came |
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0:23:56 | up with a list of six information types that it would be really helpful in |
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0:24:00 | reports can include most of them |
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0:24:03 | so they are there and freezing them as questions |
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0:24:07 | and they are what are you trying to do why did you want to do |
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0:24:10 | it |
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0:24:11 | what did you do |
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0:24:13 | what exactly do you do doing but tracks and what happened what were your expectations |
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0:24:19 | and what are you running |
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0:24:21 | and again i interviewed designed it's working with open sores free open source projects so |
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0:24:26 | this is really pertinent for did there is the main on offer in general |
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0:24:31 | reporting usability guidelines or whatever |
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0:24:36 | so |
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0:24:39 | i'm gonna talk a little bit about each of this questions |
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0:24:42 | and everything is |
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0:24:43 | what we're trying to do which is also associated a bit with the problem so |
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0:24:48 | state what is it that you're actually trying to do what was your main goal |
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0:24:53 | when you started this interaction i wanted to print a file it's much more helpful |
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0:24:58 | to say i wanted to print a file then just say like insert this checkbox |
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0:25:02 | somewhere that you can be an option to do something related sprinting or something like |
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0:25:06 | that |
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0:25:07 | so this those are some quotes that i got from the designers that in their |
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0:25:10 | interview |
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0:25:12 | we try to get more information about what is it that they were trying to |
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0:25:15 | do because that has to be the drive the solution this has to be what |
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0:25:19 | guides the solution you don't you don't want to so that the problem that is |
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0:25:23 | not the problem that you have as i said many times |
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0:25:28 | why did you want to do it and |
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0:25:30 | this is a tricky question and it's not something that will be always pregnant or |
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0:25:38 | or it will not always of white your but sometimes it doesn't really make sense |
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0:25:43 | but it's a question related to the complex why want what motivates you to want |
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0:25:48 | to do certain axe |
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0:25:50 | and then that's got that comes of information is really valuable to me it helps |
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0:25:55 | me understand the motivation behind the request or sort of problem so there was an |
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0:26:01 | example that was someone was using a startup location and they want their something smaller |
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0:26:08 | and |
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0:26:09 | why would you want your compact smaller why is the reason for that and then |
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0:26:14 | the user would explain that i want my complex smaller because i have a lot |
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0:26:19 | of contacts and no not all of them have out there are so it's not |
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0:26:23 | really helpful for me to have a big i got and all that so it |
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0:26:26 | gets a lot of it get similar background that will change the way the designer |
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0:26:30 | will tackle the solution |
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0:26:32 | and it's not related to exactly what you're trying to do because what he was |
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0:26:36 | trying to do what you make a picture smaller but two related to why you |
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0:26:40 | want to walk money made it seem to want to do a certain action and |
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0:26:44 | of course if you're a i had a problem to try to connect to the |
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0:26:46 | internet why do you want to connect to the internet i mean it doesn't make |
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0:26:49 | sense to me that i wanted to get to interact so i could like would |
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0:26:52 | work picture for cats or something like that i mean it's not relevant to design |
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0:26:56 | it all and it's really hard to make this judgement on when there's this person |
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0:27:00 | and when it's not but it's something to keep in the back of your head |
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0:27:03 | when we are reported bugs |
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0:27:07 | what did you and this is about |
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0:27:10 | describing the whole thing this one happened during the whole interaction |
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0:27:15 | it's great one reports our narrative you know every interaction problem is very much like |
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0:27:20 | the story so i wanted to do this and then i tried this thing and |
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0:27:26 | then that thing happened and i didn't expect is because expected that sort of thing |
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0:27:30 | to happen and then to work around this i try to do that sort of |
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0:27:33 | thing but that didn't work too silly tells the designer everything that's you try to |
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0:27:38 | do and it might seem like a bit lost embedding when we when i ran |
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0:27:43 | some experience some studies trying to ask people to report things answering this question most |
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0:27:48 | of the time they were able to report things using like three or cricket lines |
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0:27:52 | describing |
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0:27:54 | what is it that they were to they did how the expects the whole interactive |
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0:27:58 | works |
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0:28:02 | and it's really helpful especially when you mentioned the things that you try to do |
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0:28:07 | to solve a problem this else to do this tells a lot of the designer |
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0:28:10 | about how you think and how you actually how what is your experience what's operate |
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0:28:16 | how you used to do things and brand that we do not know exactly how |
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0:28:21 | what is our user base this is really helpful is a real helpful to try |
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0:28:24 | to understand for a certain perspective on how the user is and because it really |
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0:28:29 | doesn't make sense told this is the first speaker building your report tell us we |
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0:28:32 | or what your experience in really it's not helpful still there is we have to |
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0:28:36 | find another way to understand |
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0:28:38 | so the user is and what are see experience and how we can better address |
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0:28:41 | the problems that he's facing |
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0:28:45 | so you know the very helpful this is what i wanted to do this is |
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0:28:49 | where i started this is what i did this is where a one problem and |
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0:28:53 | this is how i try to work around it |
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0:28:55 | and if you will write this and that you should never be afraid of are |
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0:29:01 | offering too much information because if you want for too much information the design there |
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0:29:05 | will just ignore that part of the information that he doesn't need so it's much |
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0:29:09 | better if you provide a lot of information then if you lack information because then |
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0:29:13 | the whole the whole processing of about becomes really time consuming you just have to |
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0:29:17 | engage with the reporter and go back and forth and try to make all those |
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0:29:21 | questions that i'm stating and |
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0:29:24 | and this takes time and then your bags gonna take longer to be solved and |
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0:29:28 | all this kind of things |
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0:29:30 | what happened |
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0:29:33 | out then you may have fairly lengthy interactions with people just trying to understand what |
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0:29:37 | is it that your experience |
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0:29:38 | so |
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0:29:40 | when you face a problem tell exactly describe exactly what is it that happens you |
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0:29:45 | that you found |
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0:29:46 | it was a problem that you think this is the problem i have to report |
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0:29:49 | this to the committee i have to tell them and we have to fix it |
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0:29:52 | make supper better and it's really hard to understand i i've read five hundred forty |
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0:29:59 | seven bytes so it's really hard to understand before talking about it to be a |
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0:30:03 | lot of time and i was like i cannot understand this person at all i |
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0:30:06 | mean and it was all english and of like |
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0:30:09 | that's an english so it's really hard to innocent looking for talking about the mission |
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0:30:13 | not a lot or and you don't know where this top or is or at |
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0:30:16 | certain button that is |
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0:30:18 | this there has of the label when you don't know when you wonder if you |
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0:30:21 | in the right place and you cannot find what this person is talking about so |
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0:30:24 | it's really important to be really descriptive about what is it that is going wrong |
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0:30:30 | and how you perceive is how do you see this is |
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0:30:35 | what we're expectations this is another really important bit of information because it tells it |
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0:30:41 | as what you did what where your steps true to work on the problem and |
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0:30:45 | also tells you a lot of our user a interacts with software how this user |
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0:30:50 | fangs how what is the experience this user has |
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0:30:54 | so |
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0:30:55 | a lot of the feedback i get is always think that should be why and |
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0:30:59 | we don't know if that's because the reporter just think that's a better idea or |
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0:31:02 | if it's something related to your actual expectations their users and experience |
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0:31:07 | so it's really it's really helpful to make this distinguish this distinction because it it's |
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0:31:13 | very different |
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0:31:15 | if someone thinks this should be done like this because he had this problem is |
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0:31:19 | like how serious and you things a bit hard and i guess that would work |
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0:31:25 | that would solve it and it's different when the user |
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0:31:28 | expected some it's the meat it solution it's something that it's natural or we can |
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0:31:33 | say intuitive |
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0:31:34 | for forty users so it's really important to understand what is it that you expected |
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0:31:38 | to happen |
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0:31:39 | that didn't happen |
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0:31:41 | so expect to needs usually very revealing this is where i think the best information |
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0:31:46 | comes from the expectations |
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0:31:48 | and the difference between i think actually you why and i try to do wax |
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0:31:53 | and i expected why but then Z happened and i wasn't able to accomplish X |
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0:31:58 | that definitely much more helpful |
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0:32:00 | so i guess this except this is a good example of the difference on how |
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0:32:06 | on a more complete report enables it wanted to do much more for you than |
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0:32:11 | if you might to waste i think that should be white which has i said |
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0:32:14 | was a very public |
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0:32:17 | and what are you running in this is especially more than in our compass of |
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0:32:21 | free and open source operations we are always like really things operate quite a quite |
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0:32:26 | stored in sort much or at intervals and |
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0:32:30 | always and iterating and always on the mideast also |
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0:32:34 | it's really important you know what is the margin that's been running on so you |
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0:32:38 | can actually understand what is it that people were talking about |
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0:32:41 | so a lot of time it's because of the version number that i know what |
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0:32:44 | the user is talking about because some things sometimes you report a bug because you're |
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0:32:48 | using is our version and then another version this thing doesn't exist anymore anything i |
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0:32:53 | have this problem with this thing and that place and then the very using another |
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0:32:57 | version is i don't see that thing and sometimes you just like and they are |
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0:33:01 | that's result and tell the users it's all but sometimes it's not that easy to |
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0:33:05 | understand so it's really important she to say what is the version of the for |
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0:33:12 | are talk about your experience others that a lot of the bugs that we report |
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0:33:16 | nowadays are minor issues so i'll change the way about this button and on we |
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0:33:23 | just spacing here and there are make that's consistent with of the up and those |
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0:33:26 | but please don't get me wrong there really important they really make experiences ten dollars |
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0:33:31 | on usability votes there definitely crucial for the experience but we should also talk about |
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0:33:36 | how we feel when we use offer because we use it everyday if it doesn't |
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0:33:40 | make us happy |
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0:33:42 | what is the point i mean especially at me we deal with some for every |
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0:33:45 | day it should be something pleasant it should be something that it's a joyful experience |
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0:33:50 | sell |
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0:33:52 | that user experience is definitely about if something takes a lot of time to do |
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0:33:58 | it is about if you're if it makes you like it's a lot of work |
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0:34:02 | you don't you don't feel sick say if you don't feel like confident that is |
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0:34:05 | going somewhere this is about it's not supposed to be like that you should be |
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0:34:09 | content that when you do something it will create this on a result and it |
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0:34:14 | or that if you're gonna you have like you have to send email you want |
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0:34:18 | to take twenty minutes adding an e-mail you want to be a straight for express |
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0:34:21 | because it's a really simple things of all the little bits of express their really |
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0:34:25 | important for software |
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0:34:28 | so easily about thirty like usable software so cool being concerned about usability matters is |
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0:34:35 | really important it's great but |
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0:34:38 | and other said it's also condition for a good you wax but it's not all |
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0:34:42 | so we should definitely be talking more about our experiences on possible i i'm sure |
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0:34:48 | that's kind of feedback it's |
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0:34:51 | in most part of the experience feedback is like the so called it sucks but |
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0:34:55 | reports it's like people don't talk they just at you can say it's a and |
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0:35:00 | experience problem if you can see that there really and happy using that feasible for |
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0:35:04 | body you don't know why it just say it sucks and we got a lot |
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0:35:08 | of this feedback so i guess people want to talk about this but they don't |
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0:35:11 | talk about this probably so i think this is important to keep in mind |
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0:35:16 | answer yes is that right as much as needed |
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0:35:19 | be specific describe |
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0:35:21 | describe what you're seeing what you're doing what interaction it something else |
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0:35:27 | three or more race to be done it's some specify why didn't exactly way you |
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0:35:31 | try to do it |
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0:35:33 | be verbose don't have this don't be afraid to write a lot if something is |
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0:35:37 | not pretend to design it will just ignore it it's better if we provide more |
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0:35:41 | information that we've are we letter lacking information to work on |
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0:35:45 | describe that you see describing to did and most of the most important describe how |
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0:35:49 | you felt it made me frustrated and don't be and like don't be an awful |
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0:35:55 | able this just a like i felt frustrated i didn't do it is it was |
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0:36:00 | hard for me you don't have to append anyone because to i understand that when |
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0:36:04 | you're talking about your experience it can be come quite personal and you get a |
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0:36:07 | lot of anger in your heart and you have to let go but we're trying |
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0:36:11 | to working together to make things better so |
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0:36:14 | describe |
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0:36:16 | i didn't get prints ring it's really helpful if people provide screenshot of the problem |
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0:36:23 | expense and they can point this is what i'm talking about this is the bottom |
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0:36:27 | and talking about this is the barn talking about this is the thing the it |
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0:36:32 | a it there is a lot of difficult as and verbal communication and sometimes we |
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0:36:35 | don't really get to understand it shorter |
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0:36:38 | but if we provide visual aids to reports this makes it much helpful much easier |
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0:36:44 | for the device work |
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0:36:47 | and if you guys once you walk the extra miles and i guess this is |
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0:36:50 | not very |
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0:36:51 | so related to but report itself but more to just be back to a larger |
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0:36:55 | extent |
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0:36:57 | please i raise |
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0:36:58 | it's really good if you guys you raise to design to this offer easy if |
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0:37:04 | it makes you happy if it helps you get your things don if it if |
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0:37:08 | it makes your like that or you raise so people that's like this that this |
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0:37:12 | new feature is awesome it enables you to do so much more it's really hard |
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0:37:17 | to know when we're doing things right because we only know we only hear about |
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0:37:21 | when we're doing things wrong |
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0:37:24 | and it's almost like know use it's gonna news if you don't hear anything it's |
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0:37:28 | probably working and it's actually not true because sometimes people just do not care enough |
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0:37:33 | they are i can work around as i can live with that in you want |
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0:37:36 | people to just they have with what you i mean it's are like that just |
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0:37:39 | operate it something they're getting together we want people to should be proud of it |
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0:37:43 | and to be happy with it i want them to |
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0:37:46 | level you know a great help people money right tell people wanting it and there's |
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0:37:52 | also help us know we're doing we are going in the right that |
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0:37:57 | thank you |
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0:38:16 | that won't we assume so because the only use money designer z-norm projects most of |
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0:38:22 | the from line in when it comes to boss it's on the web developers |
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0:38:27 | and the thing is if i have given a solution like that immediately say this |
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0:38:31 | is are you out of this is a code if he knows and this inbox |
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0:38:35 | close not of are because it is the design of so |
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0:38:39 | okay this thing is that the record is working it what it was supposed to |
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0:38:44 | should alleviate opened should i do well i guess that something really need to i |
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0:38:49 | mean i guess you know they have been doing a very good job and getting |
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0:38:52 | developers and decided to work together and i think as we get as a get |
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0:38:56 | better wax reports on the just have to work harder and on |
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0:39:01 | well switcher because i mean you're definitely we need a i don't know i'm tell |
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0:39:05 | so identified as i mean i i'm pretty sure alan already with all the reports |
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0:39:09 | regardless so and the ability to work together with the design and that has we |
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0:39:15 | have a spring them and we met leave them excellent i think this you not |
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0:39:20 | be problem i guess it's something we just |
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0:39:24 | it's something we need to think about as a committee a and i definitely don't |
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0:39:29 | think something's are eight i think there's a lot of like that i i'm pretty |
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0:39:33 | sure somebody years that you got your not so it's physical problem are a so |
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0:39:38 | you know i problem and sometimes on will get some usability bikes that you're like |
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0:39:42 | i don't know perhaps it is difficult and a lot of times it is so |
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0:39:46 | i don't think it's a problem that doesn't exist not is it |
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0:39:49 | it's just the problem that we already have |
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0:40:11 | this one |
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0:40:12 | so i guess like a lot of like but we tools to do are very |
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0:40:19 | right you do you do the subject line than that you get a box where |
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0:40:24 | you can write a story if you want to write or you could write poems |
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0:40:28 | and letters to of about short something which basically there are very few so we |
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0:40:34 | knew we know you some |
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0:40:39 | very small this to use your masters to you know you are or you who |
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0:40:47 | do or something about a well i think we are trying to see how people |
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0:40:52 | would report correctly they were giving those exact questions |
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0:40:56 | that i presented to you guys and |
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0:40:58 | i guess people provided a lot of and experts the only certain what do why |
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0:41:03 | do you want to do something question that people to confuse with it and that |
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0:41:07 | is that it's not always burden and it doesn't really make sense us that |
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0:41:12 | so in general people when they were guided like this is what i need to |
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0:41:15 | know i feel that people are provided much better reports that were much more helpful |
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0:41:22 | and but i said it's very much tax it's very eccentric and i guess there |
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0:41:27 | is a problem that is a financing this kind of communication that it's not very |
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0:41:34 | useful for a big report so i get there is a lot of research and |
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0:41:38 | that actually observed that on it's not a very useful very helpful a very easy |
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0:41:44 | model to just write text |
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0:41:46 | like crazy on sale need something they have to think about we know but what |
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0:41:53 | i found like one of the nicer things about your for because i filled it |
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0:41:58 | out as well and my friend and neighbour fill it out that and my friend |
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0:42:02 | and neighbour be he was saying like so i followed several bugs and i was |
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0:42:08 | i was like it was kind of hyper right because he didn't have anywhere to |
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0:42:12 | be angry because none of the questions were like what were you doing like how |
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0:42:16 | are you doing it but is but he couldn't find anywhere to round in that |
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0:42:21 | for at all so you didn't of course right which i thought it is my |
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0:42:25 | opinion there is no i think when you like what do you mean only about |
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0:42:32 | you don't them gives you a lot of space to be angry at all as |
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0:42:37 | you're talking about yourself we are talking about how i mean that every night |
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0:42:42 | i like that you did something wrong it is not and a lot and the |
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0:42:48 | outer yourself and that you like very personally |
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0:42:57 | so you gonna be rewriting or who proposed guidelines |
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0:43:03 | these i can i can migrate i have there was |
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0:43:10 | it's really hard to make this request in public |
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0:43:18 | but |
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0:43:26 | what |
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0:43:31 | so forget about you probably recommend to have more structured it's |
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0:43:37 | just feels and reporting box |
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0:43:41 | but so we just to use but new houses all cool by the this book |
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0:43:48 | report form which is probably not very configurable and will look very are we wanna |
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0:43:54 | comes to the H T M L code which doesn't it's and C S the |
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0:43:59 | last time we look the that so it's probably from ten years ago |
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0:44:03 | and can know had accustomed patch what is one big text field but you normally |
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0:44:12 | have time to description from your bug reports |
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0:44:15 | and we had something in there like steps to reproduce want to three expect that's |
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0:44:21 | results actual results ripper disability |
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0:44:25 | dispatched wasn't reapplied after the last operates looks a lot from version two to three |
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0:44:32 | and i guess these are all areas that we should consider at some point |
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0:44:38 | so i'm saying this also is a run reminder to myself |
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