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0:00:20 | multichannel acoustic a cook |
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0:00:22 | relation |
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0:00:23 | uh that's |
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0:00:24 | or like like to give an outline of my presentation |
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0:00:29 | i would introduce my presentation by you |
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0:00:32 | brightly |
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0:00:33 | maybe on the problem of multichannel acoustic echo it in constellation |
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0:00:38 | a a a a a a that a a approach |
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0:00:40 | i i i would present |
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0:00:42 | yeah |
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0:00:43 | in my lecture |
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0:00:44 | can say |
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0:00:45 | uh |
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0:00:46 | massive multichannel reproduction systems and for that i would like to |
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0:00:51 | we interviews |
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0:00:52 | some basic properties of a method of the channel |
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0:00:56 | reproduction systems |
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0:00:58 | a that i one |
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0:00:59 | introduced a the novel approach for spatial can problem |
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0:01:13 | or practical |
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0:01:16 | to |
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0:01:17 | with no |
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0:01:25 | block yet from |
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0:01:31 | i is suppose you know what is says you know so we have here just a a a a a |
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0:01:35 | and and and you and strong |
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0:01:38 | and i i yeah |
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0:01:40 | all what acoustic E |
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0:01:42 | constellation it to create |
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0:01:45 | a replica of sandy the or in room |
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0:01:49 | um |
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0:01:54 | F I R |
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0:01:59 | that my my by a filter |
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0:02:01 | okay |
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0:02:02 | are usually a minute |
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0:02:04 | by by at least squares optimized addition |
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0:02:09 | the optimal |
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0:02:10 | solution |
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0:02:12 | right |
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0:02:13 | a or is given by the you know how to equation |
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0:02:17 | also known |
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0:02:18 | and a normal |
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0:02:20 | equation here |
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0:02:22 | we have that in terms of |
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0:02:27 | if uh inverse of the |
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0:02:29 | correlation metrics of the loudspeaker the signals in then used and |
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0:02:33 | role |
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0:02:34 | and are it's Y D notes |
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0:02:37 | that |
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0:02:38 | a cross correlation |
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0:02:39 | metrics tricks between the loudspeaker signals |
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0:02:42 | and the microphone signals |
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0:02:56 | the term and |
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0:02:57 | at optimally |
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0:02:58 | because |
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0:02:59 | that acoustic of the own |
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0:03:02 | i of over at a time |
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0:03:05 | is that it can be |
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0:03:06 | shown |
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0:03:08 | that's speed |
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0:03:09 | of con veterans |
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0:03:15 | spread |
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0:03:19 | and for some fleeting |
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0:03:21 | in a typical |
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0:03:22 | uh a for the the like |
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0:03:26 | communication |
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0:03:27 | scenarios we have only |
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0:03:34 | and Z sources |
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0:03:35 | are |
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0:03:36 | right by |
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0:03:38 | many loudspeakers speakers in there |
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0:03:40 | near and room |
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0:03:41 | hence we have a |
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0:03:43 | and |
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0:03:44 | ill conditioned |
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0:03:46 | X six |
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0:03:48 | and |
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0:03:50 | how to cool |
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0:03:51 | where |
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0:03:52 | just problem |
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0:03:53 | that i do yeah |
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0:03:57 | is to preprocessed process that allows loudspeaker signal |
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0:04:00 | in that near in troll in order to |
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0:04:03 | decorrelate the channels with rest |
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0:04:05 | but to each other |
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0:04:08 | that |
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0:04:09 | the preprocessing techniques |
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0:04:12 | have to fulfil fill |
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0:04:16 | at least |
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0:04:16 | in three but |
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0:04:19 | and first one is |
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0:04:20 | for for of that convergence enhancement |
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0:04:23 | that's |
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0:04:23 | second requirement |
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0:04:25 | if |
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0:04:25 | is that a preprocessing technique |
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0:04:28 | that doesn't introduce |
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0:04:30 | all people |
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0:04:31 | um uh the distortion on the signal |
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0:04:35 | and |
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0:04:36 | also |
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0:04:37 | that |
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0:04:38 | there |
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0:04:38 | preprocessing technique doesn't |
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0:04:40 | in use |
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0:04:42 | in the yeah |
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0:04:44 | uh |
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0:04:44 | compute uh |
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0:04:46 | uh |
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0:04:47 | audition them |
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0:04:48 | complexity complexity factors |
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0:04:51 | for |
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0:04:53 | to oh |
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0:04:54 | for us |
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0:04:54 | T your isn't to their production systems |
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0:04:58 | you can find |
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0:04:59 | many approaches |
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0:05:01 | for preprocessor loudspeaker signals a |
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0:05:04 | and T i mention only two |
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0:05:07 | the first one was introduced by |
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0:05:09 | the the is T |
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0:05:11 | and to the idea |
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0:05:14 | oh it is to rate up to introduce nonlinearities as the signal |
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0:05:19 | this approach |
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0:05:20 | feature a very low complexity |
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0:05:24 | but that distortion that it |
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0:05:26 | in uses |
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0:05:27 | bit come quite to a problem for high quality |
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0:05:30 | signals |
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0:05:31 | for for them for music |
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0:05:33 | conference or something like that |
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0:05:36 | and uh and a second to a perceptually when motive that up holds well |
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0:05:42 | introduced used by you can hear to |
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0:05:46 | and the i |
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0:05:48 | B is this |
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0:05:48 | one have |
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0:05:50 | for use on a frequency selective |
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0:05:52 | phase modulation |
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0:05:54 | of the a loudspeaker |
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0:05:57 | signal |
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0:05:59 | so the uh he of of that a loudspeaker signals |
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0:06:03 | are decomposed |
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0:06:04 | in in bands |
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0:06:06 | in the |
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0:06:07 | by means of uh analysis filter |
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0:06:10 | and the sub-band signals |
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0:06:12 | uh a or the face of the subband signals |
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0:06:15 | and modified |
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0:06:17 | in a frequency dependent |
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0:06:20 | am modulating signal |
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0:06:25 | and the now i |
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0:06:28 | a to come to the second point |
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0:06:30 | and what is like to introduce |
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0:06:33 | that massive multichannel reproduction systems |
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0:06:36 | the sound field |
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0:06:38 | sinc to is this |
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0:06:40 | systems |
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0:06:42 | in at is that to use this |
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0:06:45 | of the sound field to put used might have the actual source |
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0:06:51 | with an an extended yeah yeah |
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0:06:53 | V |
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0:06:54 | using and i'm bill |
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0:06:56 | of a speakers on the boundary of that area |
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0:07:00 | here |
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0:07:01 | the |
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0:07:01 | the delta be in |
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0:07:04 | that go |
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0:07:06 | this many techniques |
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0:07:07 | um you for |
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0:07:10 | solving this |
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0:07:11 | problem |
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0:07:12 | and the |
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0:07:13 | we |
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0:07:14 | some of them are are this specialised |
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0:07:17 | on specific |
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0:07:19 | a a is you for example is that near field compensated tie i what i'm based on it |
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0:07:26 | which is the |
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0:07:27 | a specialised |
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0:07:28 | on a circle and say and |
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0:07:31 | and is |
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0:07:32 | we have also for a planet and lean yeah and i is |
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0:07:35 | is that |
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0:07:36 | so called |
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0:07:37 | it's spectral division method |
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0:07:40 | it's the M |
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0:07:42 | and the |
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0:07:43 | more or less |
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0:07:45 | is more one |
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0:07:49 | uh |
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0:07:49 | and i rate in an independent |
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0:07:52 | technique technique it is is a a a a a W F S is the wave field synthesis techniques |
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0:08:00 | which words for linear plan a and other convicts |
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0:08:03 | and i image |
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0:08:07 | for sure as a a low or |
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0:08:10 | to kill implementations of for sound field sent to just |
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0:08:14 | are |
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0:08:14 | discrete |
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0:08:16 | and therefore |
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0:08:19 | the except |
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0:08:20 | the the except if something like an aliasing frequency |
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0:08:24 | and we can say that the control ability of the sound field is available only up to a given |
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0:08:31 | frequency |
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0:08:34 | and |
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0:08:35 | here we see use this simulation one and linear very |
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0:08:38 | with |
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0:08:39 | twenty loudspeakers speaker |
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0:08:41 | and here at the frequency have it |
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0:08:43 | it's hundred |
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0:08:44 | have which is below the |
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0:08:47 | and you in frequency of of this yeah |
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0:08:50 | right |
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0:08:51 | that wave front can |
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0:08:53 | be response |
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0:08:54 | set correctly |
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0:08:55 | and here for the two thousand |
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0:08:57 | a time the test which i |
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0:09:00 | all the figure that L in frequency we see that |
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0:09:03 | that |
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0:09:04 | where front |
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0:09:04 | and a be reconstructed |
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0:09:07 | firstly |
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0:09:08 | so |
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0:09:09 | and the |
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0:09:10 | two our |
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0:09:11 | problem |
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0:09:12 | that we like to implement |
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0:09:14 | and uh |
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0:09:15 | uh acoustic echo canceller |
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0:09:18 | for such a set up who with with massive multichannel |
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0:09:21 | systems |
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0:09:23 | this problem is |
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0:09:24 | a challenging |
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0:09:25 | not only be a is that is the autocorrelation matrix as |
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0:09:30 | are are very last and in condition |
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0:09:32 | when |
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0:09:33 | addition |
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0:09:35 | uh it can be shown that the someone |
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0:09:38 | you to synthesized |
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0:09:40 | by a massive multichannel |
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0:09:42 | the production techniques |
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0:09:44 | are |
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0:09:44 | very sensitive to any day deviation |
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0:09:48 | on the tiring |
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0:09:50 | signals |
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0:09:52 | uh |
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0:09:53 | do you to build a preprocessing |
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0:09:57 | and to hear it should be |
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0:09:59 | not |
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0:10:00 | that is that best section |
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0:10:03 | or from from and uh so i got the point of view |
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0:10:06 | that's a perception of |
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0:10:09 | that is synthesized |
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0:10:11 | wave fields |
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0:10:12 | by |
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0:10:14 | sound and to the synthesis |
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0:10:16 | techniques |
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0:10:17 | are |
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0:10:18 | completely |
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0:10:20 | i is completed different the then of stereophonic funny |
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0:10:24 | the based techniques |
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0:10:26 | and haynes |
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0:10:28 | any |
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0:10:30 | temporal preprocessing should be avoided |
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0:10:34 | the so we can |
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0:10:35 | do and a preprocessing |
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0:10:37 | techniques |
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0:10:38 | and how to cope with this problem |
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0:10:41 | and |
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0:10:42 | therefore we |
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0:10:44 | have |
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0:10:45 | it a novel approach for spatial or temporal i E C preprocessing |
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0:10:50 | and this is is never a novel approach |
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0:10:53 | basis |
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0:10:54 | actually on how a very |
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0:10:56 | all |
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0:10:57 | with them |
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0:10:58 | namely prevention is better than Q |
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0:11:02 | and |
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0:11:03 | what we would like to do |
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0:11:05 | what we do |
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0:11:06 | would like to do if actually |
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0:11:09 | two |
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0:11:09 | that |
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0:11:10 | but |
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0:11:11 | here and in addition and that the channel |
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0:11:15 | and uh processing you |
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0:11:20 | it |
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0:11:21 | is that a i is that a loudspeaker signals in such a way |
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0:11:25 | that is that a wave feel is set to zero euro the positions |
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0:11:29 | of the i |
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0:11:30 | ones |
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0:11:32 | so we light |
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0:11:34 | two |
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0:11:35 | D lee |
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0:11:36 | is are listening yeah yeah in two |
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0:11:39 | two the ones |
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0:11:40 | one own is quite where some microphone and i is supposed to be |
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0:11:44 | and then another listening |
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0:11:46 | yeah yeah |
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0:11:47 | where is the desired |
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0:11:49 | feel is a construct a |
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0:11:51 | lee |
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0:11:53 | is the |
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0:11:54 | but |
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0:11:55 | problem of creating |
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0:11:57 | own on i i'd this not new and the in the literature |
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0:12:02 | you can find many |
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0:12:04 | start days |
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0:12:05 | on it |
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0:12:06 | and here i have listed |
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0:12:08 | only some also |
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0:12:11 | but to |
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0:12:13 | here i i'd like to introduce |
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0:12:15 | and you and a local |
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0:12:17 | approach |
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0:12:18 | for a |
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0:12:19 | at uh the uh |
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0:12:21 | creating zones of quiet with linear |
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0:12:24 | and i this approach is best |
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0:12:27 | it just straight |
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0:12:28 | by |
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0:12:29 | uh uh but is illustrated but be thing on the method of spectral division method and therefore i would like |
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0:12:36 | two |
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0:12:37 | just |
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0:12:38 | give that say or tickle be six |
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0:12:41 | mm method |
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0:12:43 | and in is it is this method |
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0:12:47 | assume assume what |
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0:12:48 | or or to be is is actually |
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0:12:50 | one the idea that some wave |
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0:12:53 | feel |
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0:12:54 | reproduced produced by a linear distribution |
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0:12:58 | of the second outing |
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0:12:59 | source of |
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0:13:03 | B |
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0:13:04 | it it's press |
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0:13:06 | by a convolution of the thinks signals of |
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0:13:10 | is that a second so that's was the green |
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0:13:13 | function |
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0:13:14 | of that services |
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0:13:15 | and that that are green |
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0:13:17 | functions can be and just to |
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0:13:19 | as a |
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0:13:20 | spatial temporal transform domain |
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0:13:22 | to but also a |
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0:13:24 | secondary source |
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0:13:27 | in the following derivation we will restrict our configuration on a reference line |
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0:13:33 | and the |
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0:13:34 | uh what if we do that we can |
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0:13:38 | see |
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0:13:39 | is that |
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0:13:40 | we have a |
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0:13:41 | one time in the novel |
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0:13:43 | the um |
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0:13:45 | the one dimensional convolution |
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0:13:48 | and for it |
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0:13:49 | exact convolution theorem holds |
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0:13:51 | so if we do a fourier yeah transform |
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0:13:54 | we get a multiplication |
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0:13:56 | and to by to be an announcement we get an expression for that mean |
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0:14:04 | so and uh |
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0:14:05 | here is idea for creating the role of quite is actually just by multiplying |
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0:14:10 | that desired wave field white i by L we don't by a specific we |
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0:14:15 | and the if |
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0:14:17 | we we be formally that in the wave number can mean we get them a |
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0:14:22 | and expression for the desired wave field |
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0:14:25 | in the wave number mean |
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0:14:27 | and we get after that an expression for the subscribing |
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0:14:30 | signals |
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0:14:31 | that |
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0:14:32 | to to prove that our approach |
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0:14:34 | can i is applicable |
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0:14:36 | to a a acoustic it constellation we have computed that attenuation innovations that can be done |
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0:14:42 | by |
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0:14:43 | this approach by creating as a of quite and we uh and |
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0:14:48 | put |
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0:14:49 | here |
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0:14:50 | and microphone |
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0:14:51 | and |
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0:14:52 | right that's in an we shouldn't with that |
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0:14:54 | a point which |
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0:14:55 | is supposed to be |
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0:14:57 | in the sweet spot |
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0:14:58 | and we got an at wishing up to |
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0:15:02 | D V |
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0:15:03 | which is comparable was to become |
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0:15:06 | yeah it cool return last |
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0:15:08 | enhancement quite |
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0:15:12 | i have a |
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0:15:14 | hmmm is that uh the control ability of there |
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0:15:18 | wave if it's can be done only up "'cause" the anything frequent and frequency and they for for higher frequencies |
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0:15:24 | acoustic it go |
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0:15:25 | constellation or a typical acoustic echo equal constellation |
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0:15:28 | must be still |
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0:15:30 | a applied |
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0:15:32 | and therefore for |
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0:15:33 | we propose |
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0:15:37 | the or or a yeah i don't like or decomposing "'cause" the signal into to sub bands and for a |
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0:15:43 | lower |
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0:15:44 | frequencies |
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0:15:45 | just to so |
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0:15:46 | right to use our approach and for i higher frequencies |
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0:15:50 | to apply and the acoustic you constellation |
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0:15:53 | yeah and say that approach |
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0:15:55 | can be also |
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0:15:56 | uh |
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0:15:57 | use |
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0:15:58 | well with the equal colour |
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0:16:00 | and is |
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0:16:01 | which are |
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0:16:02 | more interest |
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0:16:04 | interesting |
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0:16:05 | for spatial audio reproduction systems |
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0:16:08 | for example by applying |
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0:16:10 | that output |
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0:16:12 | but it represented presented by a problem |
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0:16:16 | and i come to the conclusion |
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0:16:18 | and the intuition of my work well |
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0:16:21 | to show that is that |
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0:16:23 | at to the acoustic you constellation can be done in a a distributed |
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0:16:28 | manner |
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0:16:29 | on the loudspeaker a |
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0:16:31 | side |
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0:16:32 | and on some microphone side and not |
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0:16:34 | only |
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0:16:35 | at it has been |
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0:16:37 | the done |
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0:16:39 | does on the microphones side |
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0:16:41 | and i have shown one yeah |
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0:16:43 | um a method to can for creating zones of quiet as linear allows loudspeaker i |
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0:16:48 | and is i have sons that |
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0:16:50 | that imitation that we have a |
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0:16:52 | yeah is |
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0:16:53 | and and on that |
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0:16:54 | uh anything frequency |
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0:16:56 | of the loudspeaker a rate |
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0:16:58 | therefore for frequency selective implementation should be done |
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0:17:01 | thank |
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0:17:09 | uh we have time for questions two |
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0:17:16 | T |
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0:17:17 | uh i would you like |
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0:17:20 | i got got a scalar |
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0:17:29 | i was wondering if |
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0:17:30 | you have |
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0:17:32 | people |
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0:17:36 | would they change |
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0:17:37 | uh |
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0:17:38 | as they move around |
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0:17:40 | with you |
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0:17:41 | the quiet |
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0:17:42 | the G |
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0:17:45 | yeah actually |
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0:17:46 | we |
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0:17:48 | yeah |
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0:17:49 | we have |
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0:17:50 | um |
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0:17:51 | um |
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0:17:53 | consider |
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0:17:54 | only |
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0:17:55 | that analytical cave yeah and we have a set for the right functions a free feel |
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0:18:01 | yeah |
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0:18:02 | and |
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0:18:03 | hmmm |
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0:18:04 | as the for the free field the green function |
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0:18:07 | but for |
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0:18:08 | a practical of imitation should be implemented in now |
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0:18:10 | at that |
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0:18:11 | man |
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0:18:12 | and |
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0:18:14 | so so we will have a just a mismatch between that's that's supposed |
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0:18:18 | green function and a real one green function |
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0:18:21 | and therefore we will not get |
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0:18:23 | is that |
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0:18:24 | performance of |
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0:18:27 | going to quite on as we have |
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0:18:30 | my my |
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0:18:31 | uh what would the geometry of a relationship of the microphone |
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0:18:36 | and a loudspeaker |
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0:18:38 | would like thing to the lead the microphones |
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0:18:40 | you're the low |
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0:18:41 | result |
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0:18:42 | just |
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0:18:42 | in |
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0:18:43 | you know maybe you |
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0:18:45 | consider a circle |
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0:18:47 | uh |
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0:18:48 | you know where have you thought about that would be a very sad |
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0:18:51 | or |
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0:18:53 | a microphone geometry we we are independent actually from the microphone german trace |
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0:18:58 | a a always a loudspeaker to and we have |
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0:19:00 | simulated with omnidirectional |
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0:19:02 | lower speed |
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0:19:05 | oh |
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0:19:05 | okay |
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0:19:07 | and you did you in |
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0:19:09 | room reflections so |
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0:19:11 | so i just want |
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0:19:12 | is the low frequency stuff you you do by |
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0:19:15 | well making the by |
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0:19:17 | yeah |
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0:19:18 | it becomes an active noise can |
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0:19:19 | a problem if you |
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0:19:21 | microphones phones in the five |
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0:19:23 | you can use that |
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0:19:25 | able |
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0:19:27 | to full the null |
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0:19:28 | at a point to the mic |
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0:19:30 | and an active noise |
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0:19:31 | relation |
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0:19:32 | yeah maybe |
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0:19:35 | it's is a good idea i now we have a we haven't considered that |
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0:19:38 | it |
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0:19:39 | seems to be |
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0:19:40 | with a |
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0:19:44 | i |
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0:19:48 | yeah think is that when you are no you the microphone |
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0:19:53 | was it microphone |
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0:19:54 | and the the markers |
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0:19:55 | yeah |
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0:19:56 | that will not |
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0:19:58 | that will not that it is are yeah exactly |
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0:19:59 | they were not |
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0:20:01 | so |
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0:20:04 | i |
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0:20:05 | yeah yeah actually |
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0:20:06 | therefore why have someone is that it is more interesting |
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0:20:10 | to |
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0:20:11 | yeah to thing to do that consideration |
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0:20:14 | with in closing a right |
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0:20:17 | because uh can one can include |
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0:20:19 | yeah because we can define here at someone of quite |
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0:20:23 | which is restricted on the position of the microphone |
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0:20:26 | so only at a microphone position you |
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0:20:29 | do you wouldn't |
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0:20:29 | here anything |
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0:20:31 | but in the listening position so for example if you can imagine |
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0:20:35 | that |
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0:20:36 | if |
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0:20:36 | that is there a conference room and here's a table able with a microphone is on it |
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0:20:42 | so it two would be with B |
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0:20:43 | actually very practical |
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0:20:45 | for the people to put their head on the table |
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0:20:48 | the city |
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0:20:49 | if they hear something on a |
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0:20:52 | yeah that is actually i |
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0:20:55 | a well thank you very much to little a is off |
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0:20:58 | thus |
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