0:00:23 | Good evening once again. I'm really glad that I can talk more about Caversoft because |
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0:00:27 | it's really hard to tell you everything in two minutes. So, thank you. |
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0:00:31 | And now I would like to go more scientific. |
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0:00:35 | As I already told you, protein structures are extremely complex and they consist of hundreds |
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0:00:44 | of thousands of atoms basically; and they are long, long chains of amino acids folded |
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0:00:50 | together in a specific shape. And it's really difficult to explore them without proper visualization. |
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0:00:56 | So, the scientists, they look for specific spots inside the protein structure, which is, which |
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0:01:03 | are deeply buried and these sites are called active sides. They are reactive. |
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0:01:11 | And when a ligand, a small molecule, is deployed into the structure to the active |
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0:01:18 | side, a reaction occurs |
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0:01:20 | and some products |
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0:01:23 | are born, and these products are basis of a new medicine or a new chemical |
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0:01:29 | compound of some kind. |
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0:01:30 | So, |
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0:01:32 | n fact, the protein is a factory for our products, and the goal of protein |
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0:01:37 | engineering is to develop the factory. |
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0:01:43 | What we do is detect tunnels |
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0:01:45 | specific pathways inside the protein structure, |
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0:01:49 | so you can imagine it like a mouse drilling holes into a block of cheese. |
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0:01:54 | And we search, of course, for the widest pathways for the, for the shortest pathways. |
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0:02:00 | And there are also a lot of chemical characteristics involved. |
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0:02:06 | So, our software not only enables you to compute these pathways, but it enables you |
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0:02:13 | to evaluate the big data, the big results, immediately and to visualise them. |
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0:02:19 | Now let's move to another level. The proteins are not static structures, they move in |
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0:02:25 | time, they are they are influenced by their surroundings. And you can imagine how it's |
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0:02:31 | hard for the mouse to drill holes there are moving in the cheese. So, what |
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0:02:36 | are the biochemists interested in is, in fact, the stability of these pathways in time, |
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0:02:43 | how they change, if they appear long enough to the ligand |
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0:02:47 | is able to penetrate inside the protein. |
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0:02:51 | These properties you can, you can see, you can evaluate by using various graphs and |
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0:02:58 | teeth plots. |
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0:03:02 | Other, I said, |
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0:03:03 | is that our software is able to process big structures containing of, consisting of thousands, |
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0:03:12 | hundreds of thousands of atoms like this ribosome complex. |
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0:03:18 | Now, let's get some hard data. |
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0:03:21 | Our customers can be divided into two groups. The first is commercial organisations like pharmaceutical |
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0:03:28 | and biotech companies, and also contract research organisations. Then there is the academia. |
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0:03:36 | To get more users attracted to our software, we plan to provide the software for |
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0:03:44 | free. The basic version of our software for free for the noncommercial academia. |
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0:03:52 | Now our revenue will come from a newer licenses, to be able to react to |
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0:03:58 | recent trends in the field, because the development is quite quick. |
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0:04:03 | Of course, we will continue to develop new methods and we will provide our customers |
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0:04:09 | with upgrades. |
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0:04:11 | Very important is to provide scientific support to get the project |
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0:04:15 | customised for specific, for specific research. And to also, when we have the capacity, we |
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0:04:22 | will try to, we will try to develop new analytical methods on demand. |
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0:04:30 | So now, as I said, we have a beta version ready and the first, first |
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0:04:36 | part of next year, we plan to have a commercial product ready And we hope |
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0:04:41 | to have first licenses sold next year, |
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0:04:45 | in the second half. |
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0:04:48 | In the meantime, we will, of course, continue to develop our software, enhance old mentors |
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0:04:54 | and develop new ones. |
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0:04:57 | Now let me briefly introduce our team. |
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0:05:00 | Uur CEOs, we call them bosses, but they are more like advisory board, are professor |
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0:05:07 | Jiri Damborsky and associate professor Jiri Sochor. They are experts in the fields of bioinformatics |
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0:05:13 | and computer science. Then there is six of us. |
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0:05:17 | Researchers and developers. And then there is, wow, he's huge. |
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0:05:22 | Ondrej Valina |
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0:05:25 | who |
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0:05:27 | who will take care of marketing and sales. So, thank you for your attention and |
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0:05:34 | I wish you a pleasant evening. |
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0:05:44 | All right. We tend to go down this path the beginning of each time. |
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0:05:48 | Pricing. |
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0:05:50 | How much does this cost? So, we have been thinking about |
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0:05:54 | a few models, but the basic one is the annual license, which will cost ten |
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0:06:00 | thousand euros. |
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0:06:01 | So you get the software package and you get the support for one year for |
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0:06:08 | ten thousand euros. |
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0:06:09 | But maybe this is a little price for big companies and it's a killing price |
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0:06:16 | for a startup. So, we were also thinking about some |
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0:06:21 | time |
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0:06:23 | time-limited version of our product. |
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0:06:28 | I am... sorry, sorry. |
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0:06:29 | Surprised every time I'm talking to this thing. What is the difference between the free |
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0:06:34 | version and this, and the paying version? Like, why would I buy the ten thousand |
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0:06:40 | euro version, if I can have a free one? |
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0:06:44 | The free one you cannot use when you are performing commercial research. This will be |
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0:06:51 | licensed, so if you are non-commercial academia, you use it for educational purposes, you don't |
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0:06:57 | have to pay for it. |
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0:06:59 | We hope these people, when they later come to... But, I, it's just that I |
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0:07:05 | don't have the rights even though I might do it or is there like an |
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0:07:08 | actual, like |
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0:07:10 | extra... Like, my point is that, you know, I can, you can tell me don't |
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0:07:14 | use it commercially and I might still do it, because |
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0:07:17 | Is there any software difference at all or...? Okay, you won't be able to process |
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0:07:23 | a huge data and you won't be able to evaluate them using those graphs. For |
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0:07:29 | example, useful on the slides. So we really, really cut off version of this software. |
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0:07:36 | Okay, so it's free try-out for small data just to get a hand and then... |
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0:07:40 | Yes. Okay. Yes, you can, you can try the features, you can try everything and |
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0:07:44 | then you are able to buy the full version. |
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0:07:48 | This is great and none of us really understands the area |
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0:07:52 | that you're talking about. But, anyway, maybe you can tell us are you unique in |
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0:07:56 | what you do? Is there any competition? What are they standing for? So, yes, there |
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0:08:02 | is competition in the academia, but these are projects really developed as a part of |
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0:08:09 | some research. Most of them are discontinued and none of them is commercial now. |
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0:08:17 | Moreover, we are the first ones who come up with this solution and iIm proud |
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0:08:23 | to say that we are the most precise. The probability of our analysis is the |
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0:08:28 | highest. |
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0:08:29 | Which is also well published in our, in our articles. |
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0:08:34 | It sounded like you're currently in beta. Do you have any beta testers or...? Yes, |
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0:08:38 | of course. |
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0:08:38 | The first ones we incorporated directly with a protein engineering group here in Brno. |
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0:08:45 | And of course, this group has some friendly research labs, |
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0:08:51 | who will also performe beta testing of our product. So,... |
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0:08:58 | Is there any intellectual property that can be patented? |
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0:09:01 | Well, of course we are thinking about it, but to patent a software its quite |
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0:09:08 | impossible in Czech Republic. So maybe there is some other, other way to do this |
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0:09:15 | by patenting the technology, the algorithms and application of them. So yes, we are thinking |
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0:09:23 | about it, really. |
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0:09:26 | Hi. In your previous presentation, the first one, you mentioned you have already some interested |
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0:09:31 | parties, some interested companies and universities. How many licenses are you hoping to sell next |
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0:09:37 | year then? |
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0:09:38 | That's quite hard to say, but to we hope to sell |
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0:09:44 | ten to twenty licenses |
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0:09:47 | that will be really great. |
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0:09:51 | Thank you for questions. |
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0:09:54 | Hi. I have the last question. You were talking about commercialisation second quarter of 2012, |
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0:10:00 | is it right? First quarter. First quarter of 2013, okay. Because... okay, first quarter is |
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0:10:07 | not that far then. Beause my question is do you need money? Because, you know, |
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0:10:12 | it's something like, it's still far away and you know when you stretch the time |
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0:10:17 | where you actually sell something, sometime you may, you know, you may fall back by |
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0:10:21 | lack of money. So, are you guys on the good path? Do you need money |
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0:10:25 | today? Well, actually we can survive without money |
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0:10:30 | but, as you know, |
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0:10:35 | we can survive, that's the important part. Okay. So if everything goes as planned, we |
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0:10:43 | will have the commercial version in January, February. Okay, it's not too far, fair enough. |
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0:10:48 | So maybe it's good to say that |
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0:10:52 | the testing has to be really precise, the chemists have to cook the protein, test |
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0:10:57 | it if it's relevant, and then publish the results. That's what's important for the big |
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0:11:01 | companies. My last question. Can I just last one... sorry. I mean, if you were |
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0:11:07 | ready in January, do you have people who are really already ready to commit to |
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0:11:11 | buy the product today? |
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0:11:14 | Well, as you saw, these companies, they contacted us directly if we have a commercial |
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0:11:21 | license for them. So we told them to wait until the first quarter, so... Thank |
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0:11:25 | you very much. Thank you for the question. |
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