0:00:00so my question is this why do we assume that kids socialising and i is
0:00:05not a side of learning and on the flip side why do we assume that
0:00:09schools
0:00:10here as well
0:00:21last year i wrap the posterior study actually researchers were looking at a lot of
0:00:29different samples of the media practice ranging from
0:00:33sort of everyday hanging out behavior on slides like my space and text messaging i
0:00:38have to what we were calling porgy doubt and participation like making youtube video streaming
0:00:45videos creating podcasts engaging in appendix
0:00:48section and other forms of and production i think most important problem of finding was
0:00:56that there was tremendous diversity and what kids were doing online what kids where learning
0:01:01online so most kids were engaged with what we work
0:01:04we were calling friendship driven participation which was primarily about hanging out with their friends
0:01:08online and this step that's not so different from what older generations did or what
0:01:14kids are detected and the one truman always at school and this is the really
0:01:18important side of forty the
0:01:19the sort of importance emotional behaviors and what it means to grow up than additional
0:01:24world in the sort of ways in which kids host link board and a great
0:01:30difference was these are all negotiations that are incredibly important i think it's growing up
0:01:34today
0:01:36there was a small minority of gets started using this baseline technical and media literacy
0:01:41is a jumping off point the start developing more sophisticated skills and this is what
0:01:48we call messing around or as a transition to more
0:01:51more speaking out and a forms a corpus of and that's where we saw a
0:01:56much smaller kind of really online already those that a tend to be identified with
0:02:03more not created work at your you know what will pursue
0:02:07well it's you have strong are interested in orientation and the kids who are using
0:02:13the a one world using new media production tools games as environments to really develop
0:02:18specialise interest and very sophisticated forms of technical and media letters
0:02:26or running there is a question about how we look at the relationship between the
0:02:33friendship driven by something else the messing around and the teaching out and i think
0:02:38it's actually important devalue all those activities but the way how we as parents and
0:02:43as educators approach these different kinds of participation
0:02:47is very different i think so overall we found that kids are really welcoming of
0:02:52adult intervention in the french and german space i mean i got so many questions
0:02:57from parents who were wondering whether they should friend there are teenage daughters on a
0:03:01basis for example or we're worried about that here interactions that adults have
0:03:06a particular and complicated role of kids
0:03:09here relations and it's actually profoundly creepy for products to be participating in a space
0:03:15where there is a lot of sort of dating in flirting going around so far
0:03:19the most part
0:03:19our adults are not well good and that's is that there is a role for
0:03:23education in the sense that it's need to start thinking critically about things like privacy
0:03:28in identity and all those things
0:03:30and i think the adult world is quite aware of those concerns and issues and
0:03:35weak rehash those quite a lot i think he's that we don't currently have a
0:03:40real awareness
0:03:42that is shared or broad based about is how we support engagement in the more
0:03:48messing around in keeping out space and this is the space
0:03:51that really has the opportunity to foster kids intellectual development their civic engagement other personal
0:03:58development and really important ways and we haven't really work that's educators are parents to
0:04:03proactively engaged
0:04:07i there really is that i perception and understanding between generations about the value of
0:04:18engagement with online activities and so in the adult world there was a general perception
0:04:24that
0:04:25when it's are in front of the screener messing around with their computer that it's
0:04:28a waste of time that is taking away from more productive activities healthier activities for
0:04:34students
0:04:35ascribed much more value that those activities and that's
0:04:38in a way that so different from you know an earlier generation trying to get
0:04:43your teenage daughter of the fallen are trying to get your son to come in
0:04:47a fine with their friends to focus on their own one but i think there's
0:04:51a more general perception in the cultural on the idea that is associated with entertainment
0:04:56media in other forms of just
0:04:59mediated activity that it is inherently
0:05:02a space that is
0:05:05hostile working and that's the perception that i think we really need to work against
0:05:10a part of it is understanding the differences between different kinds of online activities so
0:05:15friendship driven activities very different interested at the end you want them altogether you're actually
0:05:20missing the opportunity that's in this case
0:05:24and often are recognising the sort of baseline socially let's have
0:05:38we know that the learning outside of school matters tremendously for the learning in school
0:05:43so what we're trying to say about kids informal learning with the media is part
0:05:48of an already existing set of understandings the educators have of the importance of the
0:05:53home environment
0:05:54for the pier environment for the community for learning that happens in schools the question
0:05:59is how can we be more active about linking those two together
0:06:05and i think this is a challenge that a lot of these experimental study only
0:06:10i think for teachers
0:06:13and schools and classiliers don't incredibly important role played which is about giving it at
0:06:19such a across-the-board the baselines that of standard letters these expectations of how likely to
0:06:25just
0:06:26a in contemporary society you like to
0:06:30at two also take opportunity of the fact that we really have to an adult
0:06:36in the shared say that section that gives kids an opportunity to reflect something their
0:06:43everyday lives not just about them being immersed in
0:06:46so i think that there are probably important functions for schools what we're saying by
0:06:50evaluating learning is not that we should abandon that we see those working together in
0:06:57the much one